Kimmi
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Why should we do that? I don't care about other team's farm systems. I do care about the Red Sox farm system, and I don't like the direction it's heading.
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Sorry, but that is flat out wrong. There is never a good time to say to heck with the farm system. Never. If there ever was a good time, it would be now. But there isn't.
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Obviously this would be much worse than cutting up jerseys, but that doesn't excuse his behavior. When I heard the story, I thought it was a very childish thing to do, and flat out wrong. That hasn't changed because he is now on the Red Sox. I'm not saying that I think Sale will be a problem. I don't think he will be. That was still a very whack thing for a grown man to do.
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Not necessarily. It could mean something, or it could mean nothing. It could be nothing more than a fluke.
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It's not going overboard. No one is saying that we're going to win the World Series in 10 years, or even 6 years. Of course not all of the prospects are going to pan out. For that matter, we don't know that Sale is going to pan out. But it is accurate to say that the state that our farm system was in gave us a very promising outlook for the foreseeable future. It is also accurate to say that our current long term outlook is a lot more bleak than it was when Dombrowski took over.
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This is correct. 65 innings is a small sample to begin with, about a 3rd of the season. When you spread it over several seasons it makes the data even less meaningful.
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I don't know why some of you are so thankful that Ben is gone. Criticize him all you want, but this is Ben's and Theo's team, not Dombrowski's. Even the players that Dombrowski acquired were possible because the state that the team was in when Dombrowski took over. Seriously, praising Dombrowski while criticizing Ben is wrong. Very wrong. If you want to know how good of a job Dombrowski is doing, see in 3-5 years from now.
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Actually, 'short sighted' sums up the 'win now' philosophy much better.
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LOL Good point! Seriously though, who does that?
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The more prospects you have, in particular, the more high ranking prospects you have, the better the chances are that one of them turns into an MVP. Theo understood this well. People often criticized him for hoarding prospects and draft picks, but there's a very good reason for it.
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Just for funsies, Fangraphs does have the Red Sox projected as the early AL favorites with 93 wins. We are behind only the Dodgers and Cubs, with 95 wins each. http://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=Standings
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Well, Matthew Kory said it. LOL Maybe 10 years is a stretch, but the analysts did agree that we were set up well for the foreseeable future, ie, short term and long term.
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Bingo! We have a winner!
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Price, Porcello, and Sale could all pitch lights out in the postseason, and we could still lose. The argument that 'the playoffs are a crapshoot, therefore we don't need Sale' might be a weak argument if we weren't already strong contenders and if that deal didn't deplete our farm system even more than it had already been. You can't look at that trade as just a short term improvement. You have to weigh the short term improvement against the long term ramifications. Is it worth it? If we win a World Series in the next two years, then yes. If we don't, then no. And that being said, it's quite possible that we would have won the World Series even if we didn't trade for Sale.
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Sorry, but that is not good GMing. It is extremely short sighted.
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I don't know who the best team will be come Opening Day (probably not us), but we will be one of the best. My point is, were already were one of the best. Yes, we improved our team and thereby improved our chances, but I don't think we improved them by as much as some people think, and it still guarantees nothing.
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As I responded to you in the other thread, I am willing to reserve final judgment on our long term status until that time comes. In the meantime, I remain concerned. Dombrowski may replenish the farm. He may just as well deplete the farm further by trading for a player that he thinks we need.
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Of course there are no guarantees. However, a strong franchise begins with a strong farm. I think everyone agrees with that. We had that, and most analysts agreed that we were set up very well for the long term, meaning about 10 years.
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Well, when your young players get past their control years, you hope to have other young cost controlled players ready to take some spots on the team. That will allow you to either pay your own players free agent wages to keep them or to sign other free agents. If you don't have a strong farm, you have to fill more spots with free agents, making it less likely to keep or get the guys you want.
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Apology accepted.
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It would be nice if we could take that trade back to help replenish our farm.
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Porcello deserves it, not only as the reigning Cy Young winner, but also as the longest team member out of the top 3 guys. It may be nothing more than ceremonial to us, but I think it means something to the guy who gets the ball on Opening Day.
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In my opinion, this is all the more reason to keep the strong farm system that we had.
