Hitch
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Yeah, no chance we make a trade for a 1 year starter. I don't believe for a second we're tanking this year, but we've clearly got more than one eye on year 2 and 3. As an aside, I cannot believe people are complaining about the Gio contract structure. I mean, I can, but dear God. This fan base is not in a good place ha!
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Well that sounds less appealing than what I'd read on Twitter (where I picked up on the rumour). Some of the larger fan accounts were posting about it and it started trending, however, one noted that this guy had called something else right, too. If that's bull, then yeah sounds even less likely to be true.
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A very, very small step above.
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This is a rumour born on reddit so take with the most ginormous amount of salt (but from an account that called something similar recently) that says Snell to Sox is almost done and will be announced this week.
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There's zero point us trading for 1 year of Burnes.
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It's reported here that Betts didn't regret turning down £300m https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mookie-betts-says-he-doesnt-regret-turning-down-300-million-offer-from-red-sox/ Also reported in there is the £200m offer Betts got during his second year in which his production had fallen off - the one his mother told him not to take. £200m for a 2nd year guy is the kind of contracts AA gets lauded for down in Atlanta. I'm not sure it's fair to say Betts didn't get fair offers. That said, they have lowballed several stars, so the suspicion is warranted.
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Your second sentence is what I believe will happen. I am aware I may be spectacularly off the mark with recent history to back this up, but it's what I'm pretty sure of nonetheless.
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You don't get many billionaires that are nice people, too. The worry if they sold was - who buys? That's a wack of cash, and we've see how s*** some other owners are. The Premier League in England has seen teams bought up by gulf regimes looking to sports wash. It sucks.
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Well, feel free to use your words to clear up why you responded to Bells post about how cheap they are with a point about how we'll only have to pay half if he does as well as they expect. The insinuation seems pretty clear, no? Unsettling? No, why would I? He was getting projected for a 4 year deal. I didn't particularly want him at all, but if he's here, I'm sure glad it's only a 2 year deal, max. If he pitches well enough to opt out, great.
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So you're calling them cheap for the possibility of the opt out and only paying half his contract, but also think he's not very good/a risk? You can't have it both ways when looking to attack management over his deal.
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Liverpool are NOT serious contenders for this guy. It's clickbait shite. Liverpool operate financially within their incomings. FSG are not taking money from the Sox to put in Liverpool. The mount of disinformation and rubbish people are using to back up POV is out of control at the moment.
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This is where I think everything is viewed through the annoyance of past behaviour by ownership. That was a good deal for me. We don't really know what we have with him right now, so I think a short term contract was the best bet. Not a criticism, again, totally understand why most things are being viewed with suspicion.
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What were the details of the incentive based contract for Yamamoto? I don't know if I missed it or if the holiday alcohol is stripping my memory but I don't know the details of that.
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I like Monty, I just think his contract is going to get stupid expensive. If we can get him at even a slight overpay, all good by me. I just don't think it's going to be a reasonable contract. If it is we should definitely be involved.
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Sonny Gray maybe. E-Rod was never coming back here for other reasons. I don't particularly crave either Montgomerie or Snell to be honest. I very much hope our next starting pitching upgrade is through trade.
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Yeah, I totally get that. As I've mentioned in other posts, there's certainly enough past behaviour to be pissed about, but I'm cautiously optimistic we'll be a lot happier in a month.
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I get why people are pissed at ownership and will be even more so if we're well below the first tax, but let's see where we end up. There's very little other clubs have done I would have wished we had instead. Send a boatload of prospects for 1 year of Soto? Nope. Sign Ohtani to that deal? Nope. Even the Yamamoto one is a huge risk for a guy that has bever pitched in the MLB. It's been well established his contract got out of control at the end. I could have swallowed the risk, but I'm hardly annoyed at them for not going 350m or something. That looked likely to be an only Dodgers thing after Ohtani signed, anyways. The quotes about needing to free up more payroll are concerning, but it's coming from agents, so let's not take it as automatic gospel. Let's see where we are in a month.
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I see this differently to you. I don't really care if it gets spent, as long as the best team is on the field. For example, if a better pitchers with smaller contracts are available through trade, I'd far prefer we get them rather than a Montgomerie just to spend the 10m. If we spend it, great. If we don't, as long as it is because the best team cost less in overall money because of trade, fine by me. There's little point spending it just to say you've spent it. It gives extra payroll flexibility if nothing else at the moment, which is no bad thing and opens up options.
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Totally agree with that stance. It would be utterly perplexing to me to not see more major moves, especially as Breslow keeps saying it's coming. So I'm pretty confident we'll bee feeling pretty good in a month or so. But if not, then I'll be right there with you. I get the emotional attachment to Sale, too. I was travelling around Nicaragua in '18 and ended up chatting with an older Bostonian gent in a bar late at night for a few hours about Sale's absolute mastery on the mound, and how no other pitcher could make you awe like him since Pedro. But unfortunately, we didn't get that Sale through his extension. I'm not sure he's in there any longer, but I'll always be in awe of what he was before his injury.
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But equally, Yorke is still at least a season away maybe two. We need a 2nd baseman now. We've picked up a guy that is more than likely quite a bit better than Yorke (with the same years of control), which then allows us to trade Yorke for the controllable starting pitching that we badly need. Doesn't that make any sense to you? I get why you're disillusioned for what it's worth. These past few years have tested even the most ardent fan's patience, but this move is indicative of having someone with some courage and decisiveness in charge at last.
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Ain't that the truth. I'm rather surprised by the negative reaction to.this trade. We've got an exciting 2nd baseman at last. Removed another 10m off the bill to spend elsewhere. We're clearly going to be sending a middle infield prospect or 2 away for pitching. If they get Teoscar, likely packaged with one of outfield prospects for a very exciting young pitcher. It's like people are judging the entire coming season on what we have now. Clearly more moves are coming. I think the last few years of nibbling around the edges have scarred people. Breslow isn't Bloom. There's other big moves coming.
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I love this trade.
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As a lifelong Liverpool fan, I can tell you, fans here have the exact same complaints about FSG, but are less in volume due to us being in with a shout of winning a lots of titles recently. That said, the club has outperformed its spending limits for years, mainly down the world class management structure they have in place. So they aren't taking from that part of the pot for sure. I don't think it's a financial issue at all. I think it's more that their attention is now drawn in a dozen different directions, with the investment portfolio only increasing. As an aside, when they took over at Liverpool, they conceded they knew nothing about football (soccer) and so put in experts that did. In baseball, I think they see themselves as the experts and so need no such favour from elsewhere.
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Devers signs 11 year $331 million extension
Hitch replied to Jasonbay44's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
It seems to be 331M/11 but it includes this years 17.5m. -
I'm assuming it will come with a Devers extension for them, too. A trade for 1 year of Devers makes no sense for them.