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Were they? I don't think we ever had a chance at Yamomoto. So it was led by Snell and Monty, two pitchers I'd have no issue with not being on the Sox. And apart from Gray not many seem to have any issue missing out on the others so far.

Would you do Snell at something like 3 years $110? A lot more noise coming out about him not having much chance at the numbers he wants, so maybe go shorter and higher.

Who is dreaming of fire sales? Name them, because I can't recall anyone wanting that.

Out of everyone on that list, only Sonny Gray the majority are saying, would have been good to have. I personally would have liked Gurriel, too, but that's by the by. So 1 player. 64% of free agents are still out there. On January 15th. It's a pretty crappy free agent class take out the two big ones as it is, and on top of this, the whole offseason is slow for the entire league bar the Dodgers. People are acting like the roster is set and the end of the world is already with us. Let's see where we are end of ST. The gnashing of teeth from the same 5 or 6 people on this forum is so intense it must be keeping Asia awake.

Yup. That's a very exciting core.

No starter whatsoever? We'll go with what we have now?

Take out Ohtani and Yamamoto, who on that list are people really disappointed they missed out on?

64% of all free agents remain unsigned.

Yes, that's exactly what's going on.

Happy to be proven wrong but I've seen no reports saying ownership is barring him from trading any of the top 3. Every report I've seen is saying Breslow isn't keen. We'll see how limited he is in the coming months. It's all guesswork outside of it looks like he has a budget to work to. And even then, no concrete proof is available right now.

I think it would be quite obvious that having a far more intimate understanding of players and the game and it's nuances would help CBO's identify different things that simple analysts won't. Breslow is clearly very smart. The added actual baseball knowledge certainly won't hurt. But this is beside the point, I was pointing out how different the life experiences Breslow and Bloom have had after Yale and that lumping them together is the kind of lazy crap you see off some of our more excitable posters. On your last point. I don't disagree. As I mentioned yesterday it was clear Werner just spoke out of turn and got too excited. I don't know why it's still being talked about. In terms of having a lesser pool to pick from. I think this the direct result of two things: - Ownership bringing in DD to go big and win, which he did, then sack him; bringing in Bloom to rebuild the farm, trade Mookie and do everything on a budget, which he did, then sack him. - The looming presence of Cora and his interest in the front office. Point 2 would be a concern. Point 1 would be enough for most sensible people to say 'no thanks'. They seem to want to try the Bloom experiment again (and go back to type) but this time with a man who isn't beset with doubts about his own decisions.

I wasn't saying you were using cerebral as insult. If you read my post again you'll see every point is in reference to comparison. You are lazily comparing them to take another shot at ownership and using cerebral as the adjective to deliver it. The fact they both went to Yale and were both lacking in experience at the very top of Front Office management is about all there is (and even then you have next to no idea exactly what experience and workload they did have). Breslow has sat in locker rooms for years, learned how to hone his craft, given and taken advice to and from other players. Delivered under huge pressure with a full stadium cheering or booing him. Won a WS. The experience he brings to this role when it comes to what the team may or not need is a different galaxy to Bloom. They're different people with vastly different life experiences once they left school. This, I'm sure, would have counted for a lot. Tying them together because they're both smart is just flat out lazy. You (along with many others) are at a point where everything points to the evil/stupidity of ownership right now. And when someone is there it's just constant confirmation bias.

Sure.

You know what you were suggesting by calling them both 'cerebral types'. Breslow was an MLB major league pitcher and World Series winner. The fact they both went to Yale is about where the comparisons end. Distrust Henry all you like (there's certainly plenty of reasons to) but that's about as lazy a comparison as it's possible to make. It's the kind of thing people who really can't be bothered to put much thinking into their opinions would post. And that's not you.

I don't know what this has to do with my point either, but okay.

Yeah, I wasn't making the point you were wanting me to.

Little to argue with here. In their defence (which might not seem like it but I don't really like doing ha!) most large contracts, especially to pitchers in their 30's tend to be not good. They're not wrong to balk at these contracts. But as I mentioned the other day, the rest of the organisation isn't particularly successfully set up at the moment either. Although there are clear shoots of improvement.

I think you must know this is a ridiculous point.

This is a fair point. But they obviously believe that they can do this in a more economical way and are going to try knocking on that door until they can find the person with the right key (in this case they're hoping it's Breslow). We'll have to see if they are right. If they are, they'll be making money hand over fist while having a much lower payroll than people would like.

No, I'm saying that splurging money is no guarantee of success. Apart from the useless 2020 win, they haven't won it all in a while and consider themselves failures for not doing so. Their words, not mine. Regardless, let's not get away from the point. Business people try to gain as much as they can from as little as possible. Such is the world. Nothing Henry and co are doing this year is different to what they've done in years past. Success while being as economical as possible. It's like people are just noticing. I guess this is why the 'full throttle thing' just will not die, even though people should have seen it for the bluster it was the moment it left his lips.

I know, which backs up my point - all these people screaming that he needs to dip into his pocket to spend money because he has billions is a tiringly stupid point.

That's worked out great for them so far. Business people will try to make things work for as cheap as possible. This is the way the capitalistic part of the world works. Why what Notin is saying is a surprise to anyone is beyond me.

I'm pretty sure that's estimating his net worth (so all assets he owns). Very difficult to get personal wealth details. But they're very usually gargantuanly lower.

The Red Sox should be learning from the Ray, the Dodgers and the Braves. Any team that's doing things better than you is to be learned from.

I think Steve Cohen coming in and spending like a drunken sailor has skewed people's minds a little. And even he is pulling back now.