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? Not sure what you mean here. What it says about baseball is that players are getting what owners consider market value for their services, which they absolutely should get. If players made less, owners would pocket more. There seems to be a collective illusion among some fans (not you), that if players made less, why then seats to games would cost $3, there would be plenty of them available on game day, and one's favorite team would win the WS every other year.
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Why? He thought he would be with them I assume because he thought they would offer him market value, which they did not. You may not agree with what he claims is his thinking on this, but there is nothing disingenuous about it. (Also, he seems to be trying not to criticize the organization he just left--actually, the organization that traded him away in order to get under the luxury tax. Many RS fans, by contrast, vilify him for not taking 50-100 million less than what the market proved he could get. But I have yet to hear a good reason offered why he should have done that. The Boston winters? The drivers? The beaches? The club life?)
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He will answer, as he should, "Pay me what you contracted to pay me." Hardly matters whether he's released or kept on the roster, does it? THe RS owe him that money, will and should have to pay it, and it will and should count against the cap, right? (Or wait ... if they release him, and never put him on the roster, does that money count? or is he in Rusney Castillo land?)
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Yup. It is. I rooted for all those guys. Ellsbury as well, and many others. Even Roger ... sort of. I really don't understand the animosity fans have against former players on their team. (Let's hope fans don't embarrass themselves by turning on Mookie.). It seems to be worse in basketball: I'm a Clippers fan and I find the hatred of players like Blake Griffin and Chris Paul--players who put the team on the map-- truly staggering.
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Let's hope we remember this Mookie better than the other one, who (I am reminded) hit a weak ground ball to first on this day some thirty-four years ago.
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So you're saying now that trading Ruth was like losing $100 at the track? (I believe we could go on like this forever, each of us denouncing others' analogies as preposterous!)
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https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-red-sox/2020/10/23/daniel-bard-comeback-player-of-the-year Good for him. I never lose interest in those who once played for teams I follow, and these days, for better or worse, there are more and more of them.
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Ha ha. You know perfectly well Mookie is not going to anything, particularly something to ease the chaos in Boston. He will simply say I'm with a new team and that's where my focus is. What will be cool, once the pandemic is over (if it ever is), is when LAD comes to Boston. Probably we all agree that we hope that happens in 2021. (By the way, did you note that catch just now by Betts?)
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Ha ha! Not so sure about that, even though any 'parallel' could be argued to be absurd. But I'll try one: each team had the services of one of the greatest players in the game; in both cases, they determined that money was more important to them than the services of that player. Now maybe they were right, then and now; but that's the decision they made.
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Wow. In Bloom you guys trust. I truly hope next year at this time you are gloating "Told you so." But I guess I would ask now: what has he done to make the average fan want to go the park (impossible!) or turn on NESN?
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There was (at times) a lot in dead center field, and if you got there early, you could park right next to the entrance facing out and beat the 20,000 suddenly-East-Coast-style drivers trying to leave at the same time. Is that the one? But damn! what a drag going to a game when half your mental energy is expended on just getting there. Of course, I can't say that Fenway Park is much different. I've only been once in the last thirty years and it was an ordeal (not even counting the 5 hour rain delay!)
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You can now take the train from most areas in LA to Union Station and either take a bus (I think a Dodger express) or just walk. You're absolutely right about how it was 10 years ago. Any enjoyment you could get out of the game was destroyed by the stress of getting there, parking, and then getting out (as everyone who drove there seemed to transform from an LA driver to a Boston driver in the two hours they spent in the park).
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Worse than that! Dodger Stadium is the only park I know where fans coming in pass those leaving. This occurs pretty regularly in the fifth inning. (Anyone who has tried to get in or out of the extraordinarily badly designed parking lots knows why! i'm told they've improved. But one can now get there pretty easily now without having to drive.)
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True. But come on. It's a PR statement. No way he's going to a new team and say to his team-mates and bosses "I'm here for the weather." He says what every player would say going to a new team.
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With public transportation (we're talking pre-Covid, of course!), I now put less than 1000 miles on my car. (Of course, people with real jobs--like pro athletes--don't have the option I have, which is to say 'Oh screw it; it's drizzling. I'm staying home.')
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Seems reasonable. In addition, he might also have found that LA is a great place to live; also a good way to avoid the drama of the RS organization, which shows no signs of abating over the next few years.
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Oh right. My bad. I saw the ref's to Felger but hadn't seen the article, and given the high eloquence of the reactions, I had no idea what it said. (Btw, I disagree with you that SG's post is POS. It is, rather, completely unintelligible.)
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https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/video/felger-source-says-red-sox-offer-similar-dodgers-mookie-wanted-out?ls=social-vid&fbclid=IwAR1Sp_6XdbgMBABFQ-3pwWtJL9edFQvzx-LYO6J1E_N4zSv_GEo4clwmemQ Anyone believe this report? Or is it just yet another case of someone in the RS organization bashing a guy who leaves?
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The 'teammates' in the organization's minor leagues likely feel pretty good about him.
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? I don't see why. The only problems they will have in signing him is if they do not offer what he could get on the open market, right? (That was also the case with Mookie.). I can't imagine any player (or worker in any organization) accepting the argument: "We really can't pay you what you want or deserve because we paid your colleague too much."
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Ha! Obviously, you spend WAY too much time reading and collating my posts! But I believe you are essentially correct. (In my defense, and in defense of good people everywhere, perhaps allowing for a bit, just a bit of hyperbole [i know I know, we never see that on sports boards], I'm not sure those two posts are contradictory!)
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I'm not sure I think JH is too cheap to sign MB. To me, it's an example of owner/GM/management all wanting to put their 'stamp' on a team (human nature--same with the 'new guy' your company just hired). And they think more about that than the results. So Bloom wants primarily to make a big splash, and what better way to do that than to do what he did? As to question 2-- I'm sure this damages fan relations (but fans have short memories, and if you live in NE, as most of us do, you're going to remain a fan regardless); players? I wouldn't know. But they'll probably go where the money is best (even though, for young athletes, I can's see how Boston can compete with LA or Miami).
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Yeah, the RS commitment to winning is SO much stronger than the Dodgers'. (Who could ever forget the celebratory post by the ecstatic RS management the day they got under the luxury tax! Now THAT'S baseball!)
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Whenever I hear the b.s. sports cliche "[doing things] the right way," I always think of the dumb-ass Cardinal organization and their equally arrogant and moronic fans. (I find it hard to believe there are RS fans hoping Mookie gets hurt as a way to vindicate their opinion that he should have been traded. But then ... sports fans.)
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I agree entirely. A player like that is the main reason to watch professional sports. (But why then are you ok with giving him up?)
