FredLynn

I wish the fans would do something more demonstrative here.....loud nonstop booing, hanging moons, walking out...something. There is not much we here can do to express our dissatisfaction with the effort of the team this year. Really, its time to blow it up. Now.

This is just like it was when I was a Sox fan back in the 80s. I remember I went to one game, but was late by about an hour. I thought I had missed about three innings. I missed half an inning. The Yankees were up 11-0.

Hate to say it, but this game is going exactly as I thought it would. Beckett stinks and should be traded-soon. When I wrote that Beckett was going to show us what he is made of this game, this is exactly what I had envisioned. Why not get rid of the bum and try to get something for him while he still has some small value?

Naw...the season is over anyway. This entertainment is like a video game. Mindless stuff. This should only serve to cement in everyone's mind just how bad this team really is.

Hope everyone has alternate plans for the evening.

Here come the boos. Well deserved.

Beckett is showing everyone exactly what he is made of.

We had better trade Beckett while he still has a little value

Bases loaded, no one out. Game almost over now.

Two on and no one out. Here come the runs.

Beckett is going to show us what he is made of this game.

One pitch, one hit. Great start.

Survey results from BDC: only 20% of the fans think that the Red Sox will win more than 2 games this weekend. 37% say its Yankees 3-1; 31% say its going to be a split. Sad times.

Why do you think that the management of the Red Sox is going to tell us the truth about the injury? They do not have to do that if that is their choice. They do not owe us the truth. Its possible that in this case the truth is too embarassing; its also possible that Pedroia suffered two separate injuries to the same thumb in the same season and they are unrelated. Which option sounds more believable to you?

Here is what Mazz said about using injuries as an excuse for the failure of this team: "Injuries haven't been the problem; execution has" I believe that is true. However the Sox have scored their runs, the fact remains that they are second in the league in runs scored. Offensively they have been adequate, at the very least. The disappearance of Gonzales and Pedroia have hurt the team, as has the absence of other position players-and no doubt if everyone were clicking on all cylinders we would have even more runs and we would have won more games. So yes, the injuries are a factor, just as injuries are a factor for every other ML team in baseball. To use them as an excuse is a copout, and I am not buying it, FWIW. The pitching, while better, is still below average. We do not have any ace at all; we have a bunch of #3 SP. IMO that is a huge problem, and its one our FO has been aware of for years and done nothing to fix. The final issue is the attitude and professionalism of this team. Every single game thread has made mention (by me) of the sloppy brand of baseball that is being played. Its really worthy of a last place team, and I don't see any discipline being meted out as a result of it. Its simply tolerated, it seems. Its possible that with a better team attitude we would still be in the hunt for first place. Attitude issues like the ones Ortiz and Pedroia have exhibited this season have a negative effect IMO on the play on the field. Until that is corrected once and for all, THIS is the kind of product Henry is going to foist on the fans.

Not yet. If the fans become apathetic and don't show up at the games Lucchino is history. Can't happen soon enough.

No, he isn't worth a great deal, is he. He is, however, a legend in his own mind, and has no trouble telling the media that story. I say we get rid of him for whatever we can get in return because his toxic attitude could spread to our younger players like Middlebrooks and Kalish. He is a cancer on this team right now despite his performance. He can retire a Red Sox in the same way Pudge retired a Ranger-he can get a one day contract to return here to retire. I agree with you and SCM that Iglesias is not ready now and very well could NEVER be ML ready if he cannot learn to hit the baseball. I have written that several times. Still, Valentine did want him up here for whatever reason, and I used Iggy as an example of Valentine not being allowed full control of the team the way he should. And regarding Bard, it IS 100% on the FO. Bard expressed what he wanted to do-start. Thats fine. He can say whatever he likes as long as he does what he is told. And who tells him what to do? The FO. They gave him so much time as a SP that it ruined him. Thats on them, not Bard. To the end Bard considered himself a starter. Blaming Bard for this is like blaming a pawn for being captured by your opponent's queen: its the guys in charge of the game that are at fault, not the chess pieces themselves.

Its at least half Lucchino's fault. Both LL and Cherington need to be fired for this franchise to move forward. Left to their own devices more promising players will be screwed up. In Bard's situation, the following rule pertains: "If it ain't broken, don't fix it".