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So a great logical arguement you two have going here and it has cleared things up for this simple fan. Using your logic, I ask myself, if one of these guys was on your roster - which could you more easily survive the loss of? I'm fine with Eddie - no trade required.
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Great stuff - kind of a neat article although it does tend to give new meaning to the word hindsight. Just not sure that most New Englanders really identify with the Puritans and Mass. bay colony.
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I really doubt that E-Rod surpasses Sale as the better pitcher but I still would not do this deal. I think that this team could be fine without the type of upgrade that he might provide. I think that we would be giving up too much. Some absolutely proven talent and a pretty good sized heap of some right on the doorstep. If chicago truly wants what we have, I bet that they will let us know. We are dealing from strength and have no need to grovel.
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came from down your way in the 17th century!!! has a lot in common with that big sign in our state that says - if you don't like us leave and on your way out the door don't let it hit you where the good lord split you. New England is different - I love it.
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Dojji please must we revisit Salem again?
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I am right in assuming that you are not comparing Sandoval's situation to that of John Lester's right?
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Oh baby - Is this a shot fired across the bow of hard working fun loving New England fans everywhere? It is in fact a huge generalization I think to suggest that fans elsewhere are "more likely to mindfully seek solutions to the performance problem" then us rubes up here in the sticks. My guess = fans are fans. The loudest most obnoxious fan bases seem to exist where the teams perform the best. So if the tradeoff is to be passive refined and respectfully quiet while cheering for a loser, I remain happy to be a New England fan from New England. Now you see, we tend to be very sensitive as well.
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And I would like also to add my name to the list of people who care 0 for the feelings of Pablo Sandoval. He signed the contract -guaranteed- knew perfectly well where he was going - has not to date gotten the job done. Many of us, myself included, act as though New England is the only place in the world of athletics where players are actually held accountable. From a news media perspective, maybe it is tougher, I don't know. My advice would be to not watch NESN and don't read the papers while you are in town if you are that sensitive. My experience tells me that if you are a good person and work hard and at least act like you care, you will be appreciated.
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I should have been - Me and "Give em hell Harry" - Most people would say that I would sooner be from Misery than Missouri.
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In Sam Travis's case, it might be worthwhile to wait and see how he does going forward. The report also mentioned the possibility of him being an everyday first baseman hitting between .270 and .280 while also being an 18 to 20 HR guy. I like those numbers. I'm very willing to actually wait and see how any of our prospects develop after actually playing at the ml level. I have been fooled way to often by placing too much belief in reports made about these kids before they have done anything. Show me don't tell works very well for me.
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I know nothing about Vogelbach and a little about Travis. Travis is a prospect. You have to remain skeptical regardless of the name. I remain skeptical of them all until they have actually done something. Really doesn't matter much to me what the data or the scouts say until I have to see them do something and earn their way. The really good ones do.
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You know, anything could happen. I'm not sold on Hanley being a great dh moving forward. I think that we might wind up doing better than him. I have no problem with a hired gun. It is possible that a player like Travis needs more time and it is also possible. that he becomes an outstanding hitter as early as this spring. Some make it and some don't. Nonetheless it will be very interesting to see how things play out.
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I don't think that they have intentions of making a third baseman out of him. One of the reasons I like him is that when you read what is written and listen to what is said, guys like this sometimes get lost in the shuffle. So much excitement over other young players and along comes a player like this kid. There is nothing about his hitting that says he might not hit as well and possibly outhit any of our young prospects. Read the reports and after you read about all of the things that he can't do the focus turns to the fact that he has been a solid player at every level and much like Benintendi, he has hit!
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That is why I am guessing that the only trade talk that I have even heard at all seems to be coming from talksox. It just passes the time and gives us something to think about. I really think that DD gets it. We have no way of knowing how most of these guys will develop. No one does. He has to use all the available data and then roll the dice. All of the scouts and all of the data still doesn't guarantee anything. I'm hoping that if we do trade that it is from a very powerful position. Sure - we could be stronger in certain areas but in all actuality our weak areas really aren't that week.
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Kind of sounds like another guy who is now penciled in by many as our starting left fielder for years to come. Sam Travis is not glamorous - he just hits. He will have a hard time breaking in with the current version of the BRS but it could ultimately be their loss.
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Can't disagree but I have to ask - Does it really make that big a difference that he might not be known? Most of the "known" ones who come with the "can't miss prospect status" either haven't done anything yet or maybe never will. I still tend to like the workers the guys who actually have done something. he seems to fit that profile.
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If he is healthy and fully recovered, Sam Travis could surprise a lot of people - just not the ones who have seen him hit. He is a sleeper for sure but people shouldn't be confused because he doesn't come with all of the glamour and can't miss status. He is a flat out hitter.
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I agree and I did not like seeing them move Espinoza either. The arguement being made about the trade not making sense though is ridiculous.
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Really - you think that you might be the only person here that truly thinks that Swihart is highly valued? You normally are better than this. I think that it is safe to say that most people at talksox see great potential value in Swihart.
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I'm not going out on any limb to suggest what number he might be in future rotations. What I will say is that my guess is as good as anyone elses. He is young. He is big. He is left handed. Works for me.
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I'm thinking that DD might not see Pomeranz as a #4 going forward. He is still a young man. It is a little unfair I think to paint this guy as a back of the rotation guy at this stage of his career.
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If I am still alive when (if) Espinoza reaches his potential, I will give you one helluva atta boy great call. Also your thinking that Espinoza, Moncada, and Swihart would have brought us an ace is a little too far out there for me. No one is going to give you a Sale for 3 maybe someday guys. I hope that they all become HOFamers but it is probably unlikely.
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Common sense strikes again. No one really gives a s*** what we as individuals think of this trade right now. It made sense! Whether it seems like it makes sense in 2-3-4-5 years, remains to be seen. On to 2017!!!
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That is my point.
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This is what gets me though really. An 18 year old pitcher who really is just starting out. It isn't as though he has been particularly impressive. I know that this will encourage all sorts of negative lash back telling my how young he is, how inexperienced he is .... No need I get that. I will say though that for someone who has been projected as some type of future phenom, we are going to have to all wait a few years. Not seeing it just yet. We are just hearing about it. I would rather see it. Kind of like when we all got super excited about Kopech's one pitch (105). Other than the fact that he can throw hard, it doesn't say much.