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She's there - she's always there

You might be one of the two people here who get get where I come from. 1. DD might be the best Gm in baseball - not something new 2. Cherington was in over his head 3. God bless Theo and ty but too many splashy moves for me that people wanted to blame on Lucchino because Theo looks better in a suit. 4. DD has done it before - pretty good pitching staff up there in Detroit - I'm just guessing of course but I think he has won most of his trades. He f***ing well knows what he is doing.

iw would not surprise me all either. The guy is an old horse trader. He is at the top of the food chain clearly when it comes to GMs. We are lucky to have him. We gave up a lot of young talent in this deal that could become very good. Like the moves or not - They make sense. They all have so far. I will miss Moncada simply because I wanted to see how he develops. As Spud said he could be a dud - so could any prospect. There are no guarantees. I like a GM who makes moves that I can understand regardless of whether or not I personally think that they are great moves.

I wouldn't waste the money on a move that does not provide a for sure upgrade over anything that we have already. And I don't mind waiting a little money. Don't make a move just to make a move. Not going big? In this case, just go home.

I think the fact that Moncada could conceivably become our version of Trout might make trading him for anyone seem like a bad move.

Keeping Moncada might even become the best thing.

I'm guessing that I know what deals you are referring to. You know how I feel about those deals. None of those prospects come even close to having the skill set that Moncada has. And no, once again, i do not think that DD has done anything to date that should make anyone think that he is not concerned about the future of this team. Now, all that being said, Moncada may not make it and the prospects that we have traded may. That is the way it goes. If he reaches his potential, he is unreplaceable. The others I think could be.

I might see this from a different perspective if I felt that we could not compete without a Chris Sale. We can. I think we owe it to ourselves to wait and see what we have here in this kid. I'll admit that I might seem biased but this one intrigues me. Now, he may not become what the professionals say he might but if he does then he might become one of the best we have ever seen in Boston.

I'm ok with everyone who feels this way. I would not trade Moncada for Sale.

We agree, I hope to disagree, I would trade Moncada for no one. We are not desperate. You want to trade Devers, maybe JBJ, I get that but not someone with the potential that this kid has. Once again, we are not desperate.

Did you just make this statement seriously. We have someone who actually looks like they might know what in the hell they are doing and you say something like this.

I might just tend to agree with you if we had some idea what we have here in Moncada. I just don't agree with anyone who thinks that his performance to date is even remotely relevant to what he could be. We just don't know! I hate using all of these little catch phrase ******** expressions like high ceiling and low floor. Really! - but in Moncada's case, he may be a generational talent. We just don't know. I would keep him regardless of what anyone would offer. His ceiling might eventually be Trout like and I want him in Red Sox uni if it is.

So are you suggesting that we move Moncada (again) without really knowing what we have? He is going to have to prove every scout that has ever seen him play wrong before I buy into this.

Or, as Kimmi said, it very possibly might mean that DD has another plan.

3 out of those 4 candidates we have seen at least enough to have some idea, some basic data that shows how they might play. In a good case scenario, Sandoval comes back in great shape(not very likely) and Shaw looks to be a little more like he did in the early season last year as opposed to how he looked in the second half. Holt, in my mind anyway continues to be an outstanding backup role player for us. It really isn't a gloom and doom weak situation. Now, the last guy, Moncada, no one knows. I've seen him - some of you have to - last year I said that I cannot remember a player in a Red Sox uniform that really resembles him. I am a NY giants football fan and if this kid doesn't work out for us I think the Giants could find a place for him. He didn't look good in the fall - big deal. Unless everybody that has ever scouted him and seen him play is wrong (which they might be I guess) he has the "potential" to be an elite all around MVP quality player for whoever he plays for. I hope we hang on to him! He has the ability to certainly play a decent third base. He has a gun for an arm and he certainly isn't slow. I'm not comparing him to anyone here either. He isn't Benitendi - 2 very different types of skill sets - nor is he Castillo. He may make it and if he does I hope that he does so for us.

I think you are right. It is entirely possible that third base becomes a position of strength for us before the 2017 season is over.

Absolute truth. I really would like to see a big bat. As time has gone along , it does look less likely that it might be EE but I do think that they need to bring someone in. I'm still not all that concerned about third base. First of all, I still think that Shaw might be more than adequate if not for the long haul then certainly as a stopgap. I'm not sure that we need to add anything other than relief arms but if we should really get serious about a Sale type, I would not under any circumstances trade Moncada. We still don't know what we have there. He has to be given some time. His physical skills according to anyone who has ever seen him are unmatched. At the same age, he has been called a bigger version than Trout. His potential is unlimited and it would be foolish to let him go for anyone in a trade before we know what we actually have.

I have had very close experiences with both cancer (which I consider to be a disease) and eating disorders(which I do consider to be addictions or disorders of sorts). I agree very much with you and it is safe to say that I am a fairly sensitive person. My opinion and once again it is just my opinion - I do not think that Sandoval suffers from what I would call an addiction. He exercises too little and eats way too much. He is 30 - end of story.

ty my friend - for the record, I obviously am with you when it comes to Sandoval. Before he gets much tlc in New England he needs to earn his way. If in the eyes of some, we are judged to be a little different because of the way we treat many pampered professional athletes, I am sure glad that I am for the northeast. What I really believe is that there isn't a whole lot of difference between the fan bases of any really successful franchises. I will say that we have been spoiled by the athletic successes many of our teams enjoy on a yearly basis. On my way to Florida.

didn't have my glasses sorry about that. i think that i see things quite clearly with respect to where you are coming from now. you probably are right about me not being very sharp or even very perceptive.

No not really. i just did to you what people in that world tend to do to others. I'll work on that obtrusiveness thing for you whatever it might mean.

For the record - I do not like the condescension. I obviously have much more respect for the intelligence of the average 10 year old than you do. Do you know that Sandoval has an eating disorder? I don't. If he does, I assure you that the Red Sox would support him if he were to seek treatment. It does not change the fact that even mentioning the two situations in the same piece of writing is beyond ridiculous. Understand please that this is just my opinion and I do not live in a politically correct world.

You are his interpreter right?

I'm pretty sure I know full well the point that he was trying to make but I don't know him. I am not his interpreter. There have been a number of comments made in this thread that are simply just opinions that people have. Generalizations and stereotypes for the most part. I stay away from those normally and think that it is important to question those that make them.

m.mlb.com/video/v1214127083/callis-believes-moncada-is-next-big-leaguer Just thought I would throw this in for kicks. Show me don't tell me but this guy almost makes me second guess the theory. He might be worth hanging on to.