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Hey - Spud has got nothing on me when it comes to be snarky which by the way is a ******** word. I'm accused of it quite often when I don't fall in line. LOL Seriously now I think that we all have something to offer here. Personally I tend just simply not to like people who think that they are constantly correct. No one is regardless of whether you are predominantly a believer in all things statistical or not. There is no one right way to look at things. Personally I will always lean toward the people who have experience - real experience - either playing or coaching the game. Not to mention the fact that I like real bullshitters - people who can laugh at themselves - of which it seems we have in abundance.

stat heads are communists might be a little extreme but hey Hitch remember - keep the politics out of it!!! LOL

he did help us win a world series. I do not give any GM credit for winning us a world series. If you look at things this way then it has to be acknowledged that he failed to keep us competitive. If you are going to give any one person this kind of credit then you have to assume that they are responsible for the failures as well. I do not look at things this way but if I did there would be no question in my mind but he was a failure over his term. the world series win is the topping on the cake for me. I am much more interested in the overall hunt to get there.

E- Rod and his injury history scares me. it was good to see him actually throwing well but I guess I do question his overall fitness level and toughness. I'm putting him close to the same category as Wright at this point in time. Maybe he is just unlucky or maybe he isn't really in very good shape for a big young guy. what ever I'm not counting on him for much from here on out based on how long it seems to take him to heal. I still think that we are ok though.

Now I get it. I think that I pretty much felt the same way you did after I had watched him a bit. I'll say it again - He is the face of the franchise - also I 'll say again though that no one could have seen this one coming. No scout - no GM - no anybody could have predicted this.

It is never an easy thing for a pitcher to cover first base for sure but it is a lot tougher for a left hander than it is for a righty. Sale's overall fitness level gives him an advantage over most. He is a lot lot lot quicker than the average left hander is getting over there.

You and I Moon are going to disagree on this one I'm afraid. The satisfaction of winning a World Series championship is for sure a great thing and i truly appreciate the efforts of all who helped us get them. I think that I am different I guess because honestly it is more about the hunt the chase for a title for me. I have not been spoiled by what this team has done in the past. Every year is different and i enjoy the season as I think that you do from March to as long as we go into the fall. Personally the season represents a life cycle for me in a way. Gives me something to really look forward to daily I guess. There is too much luck involved during the second season for me to worry too much about it. For me it really is all about getting there and then I am absolutely willing to take what happens in the playoff season which I think is far to long. Winning a World Series championship clearly doesn't mean as much to me as it does to most I guess. I don't expect them regardless of how many regular season games we win and I would never hold a GM responsible for not winning one. A good GM puts you in a position to win year after year. I think that is exactly what is happening right now and I am overjoyed by that.

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Wait - You had your eye on a 6th?round draft pick who at the time was projected to be a second baseman. Whoever drafted him just got s*** lucky. It is what happens with many draft picks. There are no sure things and sometimes greatness doesn't appear until it drops into your lap. We all got lucky.

I've never been able to understand this. I'm glad that we have won our championships but since I have always felt that in this modern era when you have to play what seems like 4000 playoff games, you really have to be lucky to win the big one. It is like playing another mini-season. I want a team that competes and has a chance every year. I will never be tolerant of finishing last so that we can - repeat after me - wait till next year. The early to mid 60's sucked for me. No excuse for a large market team like the Sox to ever finish last. I want them to compete and if they should win it is all good.

Have a great time.

I think that it also might be safe to say that when Mookie was drafted (which round was that again?) as a second baseman, no one in their wildest imaginings would have thought he would be doing what he is doing today. Some one got very lucky and so did we.

Good man! You also mentioned Denny McClain - Wasn't that the 68 season? An incredible year for a pitcher to have. Lolitch was good but people forget about him because of McClain.

What a great read!!! thanks - How about the great Yogi Berra's classic as usual comment - he could understand Koufax winning the 25 but just didn't get how he could ever have lost the 5. lol lol lol

I agree with you for sure. I would put Gibson and Koufax side by each I think but you are right on. Koufax pitched like a well written poem. Gibson had the same type of stuff but oh man would he go after you.

Number one - 62 ain't old these days to me. People keep saying that I don't look my age (for sure I don't act it) but they don't know how I feel. I really hope that all of the younger people truly appreciate how lucky we all are to hear stories shared by people who have been following baseball since what - the late 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, etc.- Someone actually seeing Jimmie Fox play!

I'll bet that is a memory you will never forget. You think Koufax would be successful today? lol

You ever see Koufax or Gibson? Schilling was a gamer too for sure but those other two - oh baby. Koufax just won - Gibson just won too but I don't think anybody ever got too comfortable with him on the mound. My kind of conversation. Hell no one has even mentioned Juan Marichal yet.

You always got excited by watching Willie play even if you were cheering for the other guys. You just had to admire the talent. It's early but I feel the same way when I watch Mookie.

I grew up watching Koufax. You are a real good baseball guy and I would be willing to bet that your list would start off with Koufax and Gibson in either order. I have not seen a better pitcher than Sandy in his prime.

That is a great way to look at it.

Pretty sure that DD will do what he feels is right for us. if Brasier and Thornburg continue on this path and he thinks they are the right guys, no one here should question him. he gets it. Once again, unless you acquire a Kimbrel look alike, relievers are just too unpredictable to go to any extremes to acquire. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

Willie Mays continues to lead the way for me. The greatest complete player that I ever saw play the game. All Red Sox fans can just dream that anybody playing for us can get to his level of excellence. i really hope that Mookie is the one, time will tell.

I think that it is always going to be a crapshoot with relievers unless you are willing to go after the next Kimbrel whoever he might be. it is obvious once again that we have the right guy doing the searching for us. I hope we never sign another journeyman dufous and hope that they can recapture past glory. With that in mind, I think that if we can't get just little excited about what we saw from Thornbug and Brasier last night then there is something wrong. Two power arms coming off serious injuries. if they are for real, we are fine. I also like very much what Valezquez has given us. It would be nice to have a power armed lefty coming out of the pen but until one falls from the sky probably won't happen. Not buying anymore Robbie Scott - sorry. I'm also over pretending that Joe Kelly is the guy you want in any high leverage situation, way to inconsistent for me. Maybe it is his brain and not his arm that troubles me. Still serves a purpose I just don't like him late in games.

I love that memory too but what I love the most is your willingness to share those memories with us.