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I get it - sensible people agree with you. s*** I'm just not sensible i guess.

I'm very serious. I could care less what you discuss. Oh I forgot - pretty simple!

I don't care what you discuss. I like a general discussion as much as the next person. It is also a forum that is filled with opinion and conjecture. Why should Chris Sale's future with the Red Sox be a topic on a thread dealing with the realities of 2018? I don't mind at all if people want to float the idea that he is too old or too injury prone to sign to a future contract. I am surprised and a little confused as to why that seems to be a topic for discussion at this time. But since we are talking about it, suggesting that his demise is inevitable because of the injury he has had and maybe still has in my opinion might be a little premature.

Do you think that it is purely a baseball myth notin? I have always kind of believed I guess that many ml pitchers really wanted to throw a strike to most hitters with their first pitch. 3 hits and any kind of a dose of Workman I doubt cuts it though.

I guess I am confused which would not be the first time. When did this become a thread discussing a possible long term contract to Chris Sale? He did have a horrible night last night. He didn't throw a bunch of fastballs but I thought he got a few moving a little faster than 91 mph. You may very well be right that he is hurt. Maybe it is just me - maybe it is out of loyalty for a pitcher who quite honestly I have enjoyed watching as much as any I have ever watched. yes that also means that I think that he is as talented as any who ever wore the Sox uniform. We all have our favorites - he is my kind of player. He has an injury history that has amounted to next to nothing and I am amazed that anyone has reached a point that they are even talking about his impending demise.

I'm a little surprised at this. I do not think that anyone should think that notin is "dead on" about his Chris Sales opinions. I guess that we are all entitled to our opinions and personal beliefs. Im not quite ready to give up on the guy just yet who has given us so much and who has been so dominant. A speed bump maybe but I think that it is a little premature to start the Chris Sale impending demise thread.

it might very well be but we have 0 clue as to what is going to happen. I just don't want to see the - who is more valuable Betts or Sale arguement start.It is not important right now. I'm going to enjoy them both while we have them.

Slow down boys. i doubt seriously that it ever becomes a situation of one or the other. I think that they are both equally great at what they do.

Ok Max - so how about this - the Yankees got so so lucky to get within one run of the Sox and it is a good thing that Nunez and Pearce did what they did. Vazquez little fly ball to right does not mean much to me with respect to how much game time he should get moving forward. I'm happy that he hit the ball and am particularly happy that he was in Yankee stadium when he hit it.

I think that the teams that are and have been the most successful over the many years since FA began still in fact understand that building a team with your own talent through your minor league system is the way to go for sure. FA exists as a luxury of the wealthier owners and franchises if you ask me. It is not an end all to success and any team that thinks that it is is going to fail. You have to understand though that I do not share that the idea that Dombrowski is a farm system destroyer. There are certainly people posting here that because they disagree with some of his moves will adamantly proclaim that he is. I don't buy that for one single second but understand I think the cliff concept is horseshit as well.

You just might need to the right people to refer you. I'll do what I can!

Ok then - i take anything i said that could be interpreted as minor league nastiness back. lol I really don't disagree with you all that much about this. Just kind doing a little poking. What I would say and I mean sincerely - I like not only what Chris Sale has done but the way he approaches this game as well as the kind of teammate that he is. He is beyond tough physically and mentally. I truly hope that he gets the payday the market indicates that he deserves. When you think about the dolts that have been grossly overpaid when reaching his age, it makes me cringe. I hope that Boston can afford him but if he gets paid somewhere else oh well - we move on.

hey - i actually can say we agree with respect to something notin... How about that...

At least i didn't go for what? An ignorant defense of trying to save henry's money? Get a little more specific with me notin. Try to bedazzle me with a bit more of your genius. We have done this dance before - I'm ok with it.

Your assumption certainly is flawed when you paint everyone with the same broad brush. Age catches up with all of us but you seem to think that there might be some magical age that clearly delineates some sort of timeline. It is always a game of chance. I think that Sale may hold up longer than you seem to think that he will.

you better rethink your application for that Mets job notin. They may have a contract clause saying you can't post to Talksox.

I'm really happy that i view things this way. It makes me happier. I hope that I never turn in to someone who has to win it all to be satisfied. It has always been about the chase the hunt for me. Money spent by mega rich people never has meant much to me. it is theirs and they get to spend what they have the way the choose to. This has been a fantastic and mega successful season. I hope that we keep it going!

No one is arguing what you have said but i don't think that saying 31 million dollars per year for a top of the line pitcher currently at any age has any real meaning at all. There are extremely few professional athletes who represent bargains to me. They are all grossly overpaid with respect to the "real" money that I have to deal with and i'm not suffering. The rich owners are so rich (and I'm ok with that - It is their money and they have earned it) they obviously can pay just about anything for anybody. They are not likely to start doing business the way i have too with respect to the old budget. And yes, I really hope that Chris Sale gets his big payday. it may or may not be with Boston. IMO no entertainer is worth this type of money but he sure as hell is worth as much as any of them and will likely continue to be for awhile. hey for the record, in this country currently everybody likes to bitch about how well the rich are doing and how they are just getting richer but few seem to object to the gross over payment for the entertainers that we support. Guess its just boils down to what is important to society. Only in America I guess and I am damn glad that I am here.

Oh and I almost forgot - Father Time seemed to miss the boat just a little with guy on the hill for the Astros tonight. For a guy his age, he seems to have held up fairly well. In many cases, age is what you want it to be - just a number.

hey - how about that Moon - we agree. No one is going to argue with what statistics indicate happens to players as they age but every now and then someone does come along who shows us that the statistics are not always correct. Chris Sale could be one of those guys.

i would liken his injuries in comparison to what many pitchers who have thrown as many innings as he has to my grandson when he falls off his bicycle. They have been minor. The obvious way to look at things is that as he grows older he will feel more pain. that is pretty normal I'd say. Suggesting that he is going to start a big time decline at the age of 31 is just an opinion based on what could be a flawed assumption. You mentioned David Price - who i like by the way - as a comparison yardstick. You can, I don't choose to. Chris Sale has been and likely will continue to be one of the very best pitchers in the game for at least a few (how many no one knows) more years. he isn't David Price. i think and hope that he will get paid heavily after next year and i think that he will be very good certainly for a few more years...

I'm with you here. Of course every Red Sox fan on the planet will be disappointed if we don't win it all but no one who looks at things in a reasonable manner will consider this season in totality a failure if we don't. Of course we want more, of course we want it all but the baseball season is long and we have seen the Sox already accomplish things that i know I never have seen and might not see again. There are too many highlights to even go over. This whole concept of if you don't win it all then you aren't successful is asinine. It is new and just as ridiculous as stuffing robots out there on the field to make calls

Kimbrel was very lucky to get out of the jam that he put himself into. It took a great play by both Nunez and Pearce to let us escape that one. Yup he was lucky. The way he was throwing it pretty much looked like a recipe for disaster.

No complaining ever again - robots don't make mistakes.

You know what, you are right. The Yankees were absolutely lucky just to be back in that game. It really is just a matter of how you choose to look at things isn't it. I like your way!!!