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Ok then - i take anything i said that could be interpreted as minor league nastiness back. lol I really don't disagree with you all that much about this. Just kind doing a little poking. What I would say and I mean sincerely - I like not only what Chris Sale has done but the way he approaches this game as well as the kind of teammate that he is. He is beyond tough physically and mentally. I truly hope that he gets the payday the market indicates that he deserves. When you think about the dolts that have been grossly overpaid when reaching his age, it makes me cringe. I hope that Boston can afford him but if he gets paid somewhere else oh well - we move on.

hey - i actually can say we agree with respect to something notin... How about that...

At least i didn't go for what? An ignorant defense of trying to save henry's money? Get a little more specific with me notin. Try to bedazzle me with a bit more of your genius. We have done this dance before - I'm ok with it.

Your assumption certainly is flawed when you paint everyone with the same broad brush. Age catches up with all of us but you seem to think that there might be some magical age that clearly delineates some sort of timeline. It is always a game of chance. I think that Sale may hold up longer than you seem to think that he will.

you better rethink your application for that Mets job notin. They may have a contract clause saying you can't post to Talksox.

I'm really happy that i view things this way. It makes me happier. I hope that I never turn in to someone who has to win it all to be satisfied. It has always been about the chase the hunt for me. Money spent by mega rich people never has meant much to me. it is theirs and they get to spend what they have the way the choose to. This has been a fantastic and mega successful season. I hope that we keep it going!

No one is arguing what you have said but i don't think that saying 31 million dollars per year for a top of the line pitcher currently at any age has any real meaning at all. There are extremely few professional athletes who represent bargains to me. They are all grossly overpaid with respect to the "real" money that I have to deal with and i'm not suffering. The rich owners are so rich (and I'm ok with that - It is their money and they have earned it) they obviously can pay just about anything for anybody. They are not likely to start doing business the way i have too with respect to the old budget. And yes, I really hope that Chris Sale gets his big payday. it may or may not be with Boston. IMO no entertainer is worth this type of money but he sure as hell is worth as much as any of them and will likely continue to be for awhile. hey for the record, in this country currently everybody likes to bitch about how well the rich are doing and how they are just getting richer but few seem to object to the gross over payment for the entertainers that we support. Guess its just boils down to what is important to society. Only in America I guess and I am damn glad that I am here.

Oh and I almost forgot - Father Time seemed to miss the boat just a little with guy on the hill for the Astros tonight. For a guy his age, he seems to have held up fairly well. In many cases, age is what you want it to be - just a number.

hey - how about that Moon - we agree. No one is going to argue with what statistics indicate happens to players as they age but every now and then someone does come along who shows us that the statistics are not always correct. Chris Sale could be one of those guys.

i would liken his injuries in comparison to what many pitchers who have thrown as many innings as he has to my grandson when he falls off his bicycle. They have been minor. The obvious way to look at things is that as he grows older he will feel more pain. that is pretty normal I'd say. Suggesting that he is going to start a big time decline at the age of 31 is just an opinion based on what could be a flawed assumption. You mentioned David Price - who i like by the way - as a comparison yardstick. You can, I don't choose to. Chris Sale has been and likely will continue to be one of the very best pitchers in the game for at least a few (how many no one knows) more years. he isn't David Price. i think and hope that he will get paid heavily after next year and i think that he will be very good certainly for a few more years...

I'm with you here. Of course every Red Sox fan on the planet will be disappointed if we don't win it all but no one who looks at things in a reasonable manner will consider this season in totality a failure if we don't. Of course we want more, of course we want it all but the baseball season is long and we have seen the Sox already accomplish things that i know I never have seen and might not see again. There are too many highlights to even go over. This whole concept of if you don't win it all then you aren't successful is asinine. It is new and just as ridiculous as stuffing robots out there on the field to make calls

Kimbrel was very lucky to get out of the jam that he put himself into. It took a great play by both Nunez and Pearce to let us escape that one. Yup he was lucky. The way he was throwing it pretty much looked like a recipe for disaster.

No complaining ever again - robots don't make mistakes.

You know what, you are right. The Yankees were absolutely lucky just to be back in that game. It really is just a matter of how you choose to look at things isn't it. I like your way!!!

No offense at all intended but the suggestion that someone wanting robotic umpires is more interested in accuracy then someone wanting accountable humans to make the calls is very very wrong. The inference here I guess is that a person not in favor of robo umps is more human being friendly I guess but I don't think that that would be fair either. I was (am) a teacher so I'm sure that I don't have to tell you how important accuracy is to me. Once again though really no offense - my larger point is that there really is no in between in today's world. You are either all in or I guess you aren't. I do very much value your opinion. Do you think that that the high dose flu shot makes a difference? How about the new (2) shingles shots? Shingles is something I do not want to get.

For the record - I might have tried to get a little more out of Barnes and Brasier they both looked really strong. I'm not that hung up on certain pitchers for certain innings. Cora did what he has done all season - he went with one of the best closers in the game and I kind of wondered why no one was up earlier when it really looked like he was off his feed but I go with Cora on this one. It was Kimbrel's game to save or not save. I would not have felt any better watching Kelly or Workman coming through that bullpen door. I agree though - we did kind of get lucky but sometimes that happens when you are the better team.

So i just reread my post more closely than I did when i wrote it notin just for you. i don't think that I came close to implying that the Sox sign him to a 7 contract that pays him 180 to 210 at all. You embellish a tad which is ok - it is what you do. Now with all that being said, with respect to what starting pitchers are being paid today, I think that he is worth as much as any pitcher in the game. Regardless of what anyone thinks about his throwing motion, I think that based on his lack of injury history, it would be utterly ridiculous to simply assume that he is likely to be injured. We are all made differently. Even though, I fully understand that they all seem to get hurt from time to time. Now I don't know if the Sox will sign him or not, but if you are asking me if I think that at the age of 31 it is possible that he is worth what ever the going rate will be for a pitching ace - yup would be my answer. But what do I know right - we are getting one fine ace for one hell of a bargain right now. I hope that some day he breaks somebodies little piggy bank.

For what it's worth, everybody wishes they had an athlete like Chris Sale. He is as tough as they come. He is a focused dedicated teammate destined for the Hall of Fame. He comes with no ******** attached to him as well. He speaks for the team and the types of players that they have brought in. At 75% of full strength he is still top of the line. He is a pitcher who right now just happens to be able to throw the ball upwards of 95 mph. When someday his velocity slows, which it likely will, he will still be really really good. he is a power pitcher who already knows how to pitch.

No - that expression does not imply the impending sense of doom and gloom that "the cliff" does. It is all over. Maybe ok through next year right but when world is apt to come to a full stop for our beloved franchise in 2020. We just will not have enough loot to continue to compete at a high level. lol

There are some here that would claim that I might be on the over the hill side of the cliff. I'm just too old fashioned. lol

2 words - Larry Barnnett

He was also one fine baseball player.

Really after one season you think he is the best you have ever seen. It sure was one of the best years I have seen but saying he is the best manager you have ever seen causes me to pause.

I don't believe in the cliff theory. Is it still ok to call myself a Red Sox fan?

It is amazing how all of our rememberers seem to work. Bill buckner was one of my all time favorites.