Bellhorn04
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Everything posted by Bellhorn04
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Exactly what I'm saying.
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I think the majority of the players would survive somehow. Some are already rich, after all.
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Most people are used to hearing about the huge amounts of money pro athletes make.
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That's beside the point. The owners certainly don't want the game of baseball and the multi-billion dollar value of their franchises to be ruined.
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Who gets a 65% raise from one union agreement to the next though? Just not realistic.
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Only if they make it to the majors and stay there.
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So what if the owners have other businesses? They need the players to conduct their baseball business.
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They're just the same as any other unionized labor force.
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It's their livelihood. I consider them workers just as much as I am. The money doesn't just get handed to them. They have to make it to the top.
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Why would it suddenly be more important than it was the last decade?
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The bottom line is, the players didn't pay much attention in the last couple of CBA's to increases in minimum salary. They can't expect to make up for that all at once. If that's what they're thinking, it's no wonder these negotiations are going nowhere.
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But the reason nobody blinks an eye about Cruise's $75 mill is that they only care about the $$$ it actually costs them to see the movie.
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I don't disagree, but we're a little late in the game to be asking for more than what they're already not agreeing to. If the players felt so strongly about the minimum salary being too low, maybe they should have tried harder the last couple of CBA's, when it increased by jacksquat. At least the owners are agreeing to somewhat of a bump now.
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Great, just ask for stuff you're not going to get. You're not going to get a 50% increase in anything from one agreement to the next. The players probably should have fought harder for these raises in previous negotiations. But they didn't.
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moon, nobody ever messes up 2 + 2 = 4. But you calculated 2 - 1 = 2. That's just about as bad.
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I don't know Denny, they started making sweeping epics like Ben Hur and Lawrence of Arabia around 1960. I think the real killer now is you have to sit through a half hour of commercials and trailers before a movie.
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On the minimum salary thing: Owners proposed Year 1 615 K Year 2 650 K Year 3 725 K Players asking 775 K for all 3 years.
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Dreadful math.
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They used to play the Super Bowl in the afternoon too... It's kind of a trend I've noticed to keep making things later on the calendar and on the clock...
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Yes, but the reason they've abolished WS day games is that prime time games = more money.
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The players have already said OK to 12, so that much is a done deal.
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"Were" a baseball tradition. Like day games in the World Series.
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No argument. The owners' proposal does actually contain some respectable increases to minimum salaries. Much more so than in previous CBA's.
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And I don't get the appeal of DH's when one of the big complaints is that games are too long...
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More potential for being effed up by the day. The 15 minute negotiation meetings are not providing much reason for optimism.
