Bellhorn04
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It's time for the government to call these guys out for being bozos, for f***ing up the game of baseball yet again, when there are much bigger problems going on in the world, when people could really use the national pastime.
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What they really need to fix is the nature of these goddamn CBA negotiations! Maybe the CBA's should be shorter in length, so the parties aren't as worried about getting locked into a horrible deal. Maybe they need a systematic process to resolve issues, an agreement that after a certain point it goes automatically to an arbitrator. I don't have the answer, but this has been one stupid spectacle.
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You have somewhat of a point but you're also conflating some things. If Kimmi was here I'm sure she would say that the reason the playoffs are a crapshoot is because of the nature of baseball and the randomness of a short series. And some of the small market teams have done well for their payroll, but in the big picture they haven't won many championships. And some of them have become dismal, like Pittsburgh, Miami, Colorado etc.
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I've never been a big fan of "Debt service fees" either. There are interest charges, which everyone understands, and there are up-front fees with a lot of loans. Now, as a bean-counter it's impossible for me to resist pointing out that if you buy a Lexus and finance it, only the interest portion of the payments is an 'expense'. The full payment is, of course, an outflow of cash.
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I don't know that anyone's discounting player development costs. Those would presumably be roughly the same for every organization. Debt service expense is certainly one that would vary a lot. I believe that this particular expense is the one Hal Steinbrenner has been using to explain why the Yankees don't spend on payroll like drunken sailors the way they once did.
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If they really wanted to use the luxury tax as a way of spreading the wealth, they would lower the thresholds, lower the tax rates, and remove the other penalties. Then more teams would pay more tax and more money would go to the smaller market teams.
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What are these non-payroll 'distinct expenses' you speak of?
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I don't think it can be both.
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And what is the real goal of the luxury tax? Is it to spread wealth or to suppress spending? Sure seems like it's the latter.
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The players aren't on strike, but if you think they're the greedy ones you can argue that they should accept the owners' latest offer. I have mixed feelings, because it seems like the players are trying to make up for doing such a bad job in the last two CBA's.
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It's not your bad, or anyone's bad. We're all just spewing off in our own way LOL
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It's ridiculous that the tax thresholds are such a big issue. It only affects a few teams anyway. It just shows what blockheads these guys are.
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The point in question is the % of baseball revenues that teams put back into payroll.
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Who knows, maybe all the teams fail to report all their revenue, so the numbers are all proportionately out of whack LOL Now, Forbes also does market valuations for the teams. Those are real world numbers that could be compared to actual selling prices of franchises.
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All I can say is that I assume Forbes does their due diligence. Beyond that is pure speculation.
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Tell us more.
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We can do the math on a lot of it, though.
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Forbes does a report on it every year. The one for 2021 should be out some time this month.
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Yeah, this might be a pretty good illustration of billionaire owners being more greedy and stingy than millionaire players.
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Right, but I don't think there's much in the way of secret money no one knows about...
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Yeah, all I really look at is the Forbes Business of Baseball numbers. As for not seeing their books, don't you think the gross revenues can be estimated fairly accurately?
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The owners will lose money too, but as everyone says, they can much more easily afford it than everyone else.
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Because it got derailed to something more interesting. When I saw people were still posting to it I figured it could no longer be about O'Neill LOL
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What people should be looking at is the % of revenue put back into payroll. The Red Sox have usually had one of the highest %s, I think. Henry has been pretty ethical in that regard, IMO. It's smart, too. He knows his fanbase.
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To be totally "fair" about it, the owners have moved a significant amount from their original proposals, which were however ridiculous. I think they started by asking for the tax threshold to be pulled back to 180 million.
