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newish fan, can someone explain the finances?
Bellhorn04 replied to randywatson's topic in Other Baseball
Here's an analysis of the Red Sox 2023 payroll from Cot's Contracts. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WWRsQNsGZkWuJZwlY8--xVBXMJGjh230D45KiHTHuvY/edit#gid=1520401900 -
newish fan, can someone explain the finances?
Bellhorn04 replied to randywatson's topic in Other Baseball
Here's a recap from MLB.com. Competitive Balance Tax | Glossary | MLB.com WWW.MLB.COM The Official Site of Major League Baseball -
2020 was a little different though, you must admit. It was only 60 games and there were players missing because of COVID. It was the ideal year to tank.
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Toronto 86-68 Texas 85-68 Houston 85-69 Seattle 84-69
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The 1978 Red Sox had a great team, with 4 future HOFers and 2 borderliners (Tiant and Evans). They started 62-28 (.689) and finished 37-36 (.507). They played the Yankees 8 times from September 7 to October 2 and lost 7 of them. If you want to characterize this as something other than a collapse, hey, no one can stop you.
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I know a lot of us don't care any more, but the AL race for the last playoff spots is pretty wild. 6 teams make it. In for sure Baltimore 85-58 Tampa Bay 94-60 Minnesota 81-72 Contenders for AL West division/Wild Card Toronto 85-68 Houston 85-68 Seattle 84-68 Texas 84-68 Is that tight enough? 3 of the 4 will make it, 1 can start booking tee times.
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The Globe writers, including even Shank, were fair to Bloom in that they didn't just put the blame on him, but made it clear the owners are to blame too.
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OK maybe I was pushing it a bit, but I don't think 2011 gets remembered by most Sox fans as the kind of Greek tragedy 1978 was. Because we now had won it all twice, and the fallout from 2011 actually led to another title in 2013. Just my take.
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I'm sure. But the effects didn't really linger like they did with, say, 1978.
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1972 to 2003 brought a whole lot of pain. Any pain we experience now is mild by comparison. Hell, we all kind of shrugged off 2011...
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I get that idea, but the problem is, it implies Bloom really was being given 5 years.
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I think both are valid.
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If I could ask Bloom one question, it would be why he never issued a contract of more than $10 million to a starting pitcher...
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It's a long term relationship. If your spouse was nice to you for 15 years, but is mean to you now, the Recency Effect is pretty strong...
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No, you're not wrong. But my expectations of people in general, and sports fans in particular, are fairly low. You're going to have a modest percentage of reasonable ones and that's about it.
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Roger on the "like real soon".
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I partially disagree. Sox ownership has delivered 4 titles, which is awesome. But Sox fans have a right to complain about the 2022 and 2023 teams. The fans are the ones who ultimately pay for everything and who have made Henry's franchise worth 4.5 billion. Why should they keep paying the highest ticket prices in baseball to watch sub-.500 teams while Henry cuts payroll and puts more money in his pocket? Should they just be pom-pom wavers?
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The thing is, moon, most fans don't examine things in the kind of detail you do. They keep things a little simpler for themselves, you might say.
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As you probably know, a credible rumor has emerged that Dombrowski was in talks with the Dodgers about a Betts trade before the 2019 deadline.
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My guess is he'll be judged much the same as Ben is. Some will give him credit, others will continue to stress the last-place finishes, call him Coffee Boy or something similarly insulting... Some of this stuff is pretty predictable.
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Blaming Bloom for trading Betts does not pass my smell test. And I'd say Henry has actually taken some responsibility for Betts, although it was phrased as a sort of a lament about "not being able" to sign him to an extension.
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I don't remember that.
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If memory serves, after DD was fired Henry said something about it being unwise to just bring the same team back, like DD did in 2019.
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But the shots almost never come directly from the front office. They're tricky buggers, alright...
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My guess is the owners thought Bloom could rebuild the farm, cut payroll and put together an MLB team that wins 85-90 games.
