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They're pretty careful about which rumors they publish. Pepen's credibility may be slightly in doubt. https://www.si.com/fannation/mlb/fastball/news/mlb-insider-marino-pepen-claims-boston-red-sox-have-made-monster-offer-to-yoshinobu-yamamoto
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Just another Interest Kings leak?
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How have the Red Sox fared in past free agent bidding wars?
Bellhorn04 replied to Bellhorn04's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
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He's only getting paid $2 million a year by the Dodgers for the next 10 years. You have to admit that's different, if nothing else... The source is his agent BTW. I'm not saying it's not a tad hyperbolic.
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That's encouraging, though sadly it may not be enough.
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It's all relative. Ohtani getting paid a mint was a given. He'd be called a fool if he wasn't.
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George Steinbrenneresque, that is. Cashman seems to have a virtual lifetime deal from Hal...
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Right on cue: Balelo described Ohtani’s decision as “the most incredible act of unselfishness and willingness to win that I’ve ever experienced in my life, or ever will. He did not care at all about the present value inflation. And you know what, neither did I. He should be praised for this. He did not want to handcuff a team with his salary. He said, ’How can I contribute to a team and allow them to stay competitive?’ So he took the most unselfish approach possible and deferred everything.”
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I wouldn't put it past Henry to fire Breslow after one year, either...
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Granted but many of the starting pitchers we talked about are off the board: Nola Gray E-Rod Lugo Wacha And frankly I thought the Sox were one of the most motivated, if not desperate, teams going into this offseason. I'm paranoid and I'm not doing much to hide it...
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Peter Gent said it like this in North Dallas Forty: "The team is a fiction."
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Also Wakefield had a sort of automatically renewing one-year contract with the Sox in his latter years, as I recall.
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Didn't you just answer your own question? The angry masses needed a sacrifice.
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The present value of his contract has been calculated as $435 to $460 mill ($460 is the number they're using for tax AAV). That's less than he was projected to get in a straightforward deal. Of course I realize that some folks think present value doesn't mean much...
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What worries me is that the committee thing has a lot to do with the problems of the Bloom era - the indecision and lack of aggressiveness. And maybe Bloom was just the fall guy for those problems. And maybe they're still going on... I'm worried, man!
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How have the Red Sox fared in past free agent bidding wars?
Bellhorn04 replied to Bellhorn04's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Manny Ramirez OTOH had a bit of a hissy fit when he found out about the two team options in his contract, as I recall... -
I think you have some confirmation bias going too. You downplay the exceptions. Nola is another one. He reportedly got bigger offers than the Phillies offer. Plus how do we know what these guys are thinking? If there are quotes, sure. But I don't think we should make assumptions.
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I'd say the bigger the star, the more they get to pick and choose where they play. Ohtani's deal gave the Dodgers a big break on the AAV and cash flow. And of course he got those amazing opt-out provisions revolving around who's running the team etc. It wasn't just the money for him, that should be pretty obvious.
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That's believable, the only thing that's missing is the family considerations thing. (Maybe basketball players don't care about those much.)
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Why? He's already met with all the teams, apparently. What's going to take up 2-3 more weeks?
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The money there is on "family considerations".
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There's no argument that money is the #1 factor. I just think other factors are often in play too. Eflin took the same money from the Rays because that's where he wanted to go. He didn't even come back to the Sox to give them a chance to outbid.
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That all seems a bit presumptuous to me. Hell, even Nimrod was willing to have his contract reduced to join the Red Sox.
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They also have Dunning, Gray and Heaney. But who knows, maybe they will sign Monty. Some teams are really going for it.
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The thought that's really haunting me is that the Sox are being run by a big committee now, with the CBO being the interchangeable part. This theory lines up with Dombrowski's firing, because there were reports about him not playing nice with other members of the front office, even daring to exclude Sam Kennedy from baseball meetings.
