2 entirely separate transactions that you are trying to connect.
Much like the money we saved on the Dodger Dump and how we spent that money, isn't it?
Right. That's why I say it was no more than a salary dump. So then you have to trace what we did with the money. The 2013 free agent signings helped us win a title, which was great. But then came signings like Castillo and Pablo which were even worse than Crawford. A mixed bag to put it mildly.
Agreed. But you have to admit, the Cherington years go down as one of the weirdest stretches ever. One championship and 3 last place finishes, 2 of which were among the worst Red Sox seasons since the early Sixties, in spite of huge payrolls.
Sorry Flap, I just can't get too excited about De La Rosa, Webster, Miley et al. The Holt pickup was very nice. But these are some real bit players we're talking about.
Yeah, I realize I'm on somewhat shaky ground with that statement. The short-term benefits were definitely there. But did any of those benefits extend beyond 2013?
I always respectfully disagree with you about the AGon trade being one of the great trades. To me it was a great salary dump, that's it. We got nothing in return except financial relief - and it's questionable whether we made good use of that relief. Maybe I'm a purist in some ways, but I think in a great trade you get back a player who helps you a lot.
Here's how you 'hope for' the Yankees:
'Come on you miserable scumbags, win this game for us, even though you suck and are going to end up under .500 this year.'
'Come on you worthless pukes. Etc.'
When you talk about trading Rizzo you're talking about the inherent risk of any trade of good prospects. Usually the other team gets squat, but sometimes they get the golden nugget.
The really bizarre part is that the Padres gave up on him after a rough debut and let him slip away.
Meanwhile we give up on Lars Anderson after he loses most of his value and trade him for a knuckleballer who's our best starter this year.
Price has given up a SLG of .415 this year before tonight, compared to .363 for his career. He's striking out a lot of guys but giving up way too much hard contact. It's like hitters are really comfortable up there and hacking away. I think the point about not pitching inside enough may be a valid one.