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  1. User Name
    Kimbrel is smack in the middle of his prime. If you're going to pay a steep price, pay it for peak years and performance. Kimbrel provides both, Papelbon provides neither.
  2. User Name
    That's what Carter Capps does, just not as violently. He f***ed up his throwing arm. It complicates mechanics too much.
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    Attitude does not mean jack, in reality. What matters is production, and Panda ain't producing. That's the real problem. "Attitude" problems tend to lose importance when a ballplayer is producing.
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    It actually helped Weathers overcome several arm injuries. Go figure.
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    Also, consider the fact that you can't compare a starter to a closer, because they are different positions with different pay scales. It's a stupid, arbitrary comparison. You compare relief pitchers to other relief pitcher. The fact is the average closer made a third of what Papelbon made last year and in terms of WAR, Papelbon was pretty much a slightly above average relief pitcher. If you're making top of the market money while being slightly above average you are overpaid. Dojji and many others here love talking out of both sides of their mouth. You can't say on one hand that Sandoval is overpaid, then turn back and say Papelbon isn't. Overpaid is overpaid, depending on what their peers (as in, other closers for Papelbon and other 3B for Panda) are making. Be consistent people.
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    The advantage is having your top OBP guys (Betts, Pedroia, Bogaerts) hitting in front of your best power guys (Ortiz, a hopefully healthy Hanley). In the end, what Dojji says is correct, and what you're saying is anecdotal dribble.
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    Chapman would throw it 120 with a crow hop like that.
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    They have options. They have Young and Holt as insurance, and they could form a very viable platoon.
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    No, they are not mutually exclusive. They can all pitch to career averages, but we can end up with a problem spot in the rotation, and no viable protection against injury. In my opinion, it's not necessarily a #2, but rather a mid-rotation guy who can take the bump, because 2/5 of the rotation (Kelly and Buch) are injury prone, Erod is currently injured and Porcello was terrible last year (even though I expect him to rebound). Hedging bets was important here.
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    The Sox deal from young MLB players for Sale, which was the point of the discussion. There's literally no two ways to interpret it. In that case, I'm clearly referring to moving Betts/ Bogaerts (weakening SS or OF) to strengthen SP. Next time, I'll spell it out. Jesus.
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    Paying for past performance is stupid, and Papelbon is at the twilight of his career. He was overpaid when he signed the contract, and he was exiting his prime years, and he's overpaid now because he's entering sudden decline territory and making ace closer money when he's a mid-tier guy. He was lights-out at the beginning of his career, borderline elite when he lost his splitter, and just very good- more than decent the last couple of years. I just don't get the adoration for Papelbon. He's been durable (that has value, ask Joaquin Benoit), but that's not worth top of the market money. This discussion is stupid. In synthesis: He's still good, but he's overpaid and I'd take both Kimbrel and Carson Smith over him in a flash, and if you don't, you need a reality check.
  12. User Name
    They just need a starter, a healthy E-Rod, and a quick resolution at 3B really. Everything else should work itself out.
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    Not for them, for us. Of course it makes sense for them. How did you infer I was talking about them from my post? You need new reading glasses.
  14. User Name
    The average salary for closers last year was right around 4.5 million dollars. Papelbon made nearly triple that, while posting the 83rd highest dollar value per Fangraphs. So he made triple what an average closer makes, but was 83/137 in dollar value amongst relievers, not just closers. That is literally the definition of being overpaid. There's just no way to spin it.
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    But who do you offer that's a proven offensive performer to upgrade their offense right now? If the Sox have to deal from their stable of young MLB players, then the deal doesn't make sense. You don't weaken a position to improve another.
  16. User Name
    In this situation, they'd be completely selling if they traded Sale, their main pitcher. I'd think they'd go for the upside play if they were hypothetically rebuilding.
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    Agree with Dojji's assesment of the price (not so sure they'd be so insistent on Eddie instead of Espinoza, but still). However, I personally wouldn't pay the price considering the injury history for pitchers who throw using inverted W mechanics. Especially for someone who is already experiencing some (albeit minor) difficulties with his elbow.
  18. User Name
    Except that, compared to other, more effective closer (and that's the measuring stick that should be used, not some arbitrary comparison to another position) Papelbon is overpaid. There's just no spinning it.
  19. User Name
    Love Sale, don't love his mechanics. Looks like a disaster waiting to happen with the inverted W. I'd much rather they go out and get Sonny Gray if they're going to blow their load.
  20. User Name
    Overpaid, not that good.
  21. User Name
    You're still wrong, just like you were in the last discussion, so nothing's changed!
  22. User Name
    Jesus, Papelbon's just not that good anymore. Deal with it.
  23. User Name
    I don't buy it. He was having a terrible time hitting fastballs he normally crushes, and the numbers bear that out. Even a not-so-significant shoulder injury can lead to screwy mechanics because of compensation. And this is coming from someone who's had a significant amount of shoulder/elbow issues in his lifetime. I'm no big leaguer, but I know how hard it is even for non-baseball activities like weightlifting.
  24. User Name
    Well yeah, that's all I've been saying. The Royals themselves are an excellent example of this.
  25. User Name
    Unless he healed, but it f***ed up his swing. It happens after shoulder issues, like it did with Bobby Abreu and A-Gon.
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