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Probably Panda. Porcello and Miley have zero value but if some team is willing eat their contract, do not hesitate. Vic, Papi, Masterson, Craig, Napoli are done.

There was not need to trade anyone. Lester and Shields were available. They should have signed both.

Both additions would have been way better than this crap, and it is not even debatable.

It's funny, Porcello is a good pitcher and Hamels and Shields are bad. LOL!

James Shields has been pretty decent thus far, he has posted a 3.72 ERA, 3.1 xFIP/SIERA, and while his BB/9 has raised a bit it is still good. The thing that is remarkable is his K/9. The best of his career, it is at 10.47.

It doesn't work like that. The pitching staff have taxed other departments as well. Saying a number is pure speculation/conjecture. Thing is that a better pitching staff would have made this team more competitive and likely in the hunt. That is kind of the point.

Yup, now seems to be too late as some of us predicted. We can split the numbers all day long. Thing is that this pitching staff is one of the worst in all baseball and it already taxed us. We are just ahead PHI an COL in that department, and it is the fact that really matters.

While I did/do not like the rotation at all, I only had little faith on He and Kelly when the season began.

It is not a good comparasion by any means. Their track record says it all. MB was/is way far a better pitcher than Porcello.

Since day one we had a bunch of No. 4s and 5s lead by Rick f***ing Porcello and Buch. IDK you, but I did not like that by any means. Some said that this staff could be "good enough=mediocre" since the good offense blah blah. Again, I understand what they wanted/tried to to do here, but that does not mean that I liked that strategy. At the time we had a very unbalanced team, and we had a very little margin of error if the offense/run prevention/BP shitted the bed... which kind of been happening. Also while the offense were on paper very good, there were some question marks on some players as well. There were some concerns in Sandoval, HR and XB specially at defense. Some questioned if Vic, Pedroia and others could be healthy all season long as well. Some question marks were around Papi and Napoli as well. Craig and Castillo were an mystery. etc. As I said, on paper I did not like the strategy at all since day 1. All those questions have answers these days; unfortunately just a few are good answers. We can split the numbers all day long, the true is that each department already taxed us in one way or another making us one of the worst teams in baseball.

This is what I was thinking as well. Probably he is going to be part of a trade package, but they are waiting to pull the trigger in the right moment. Thing is that the team is already done this season. I will not be surprised if they wait until offseason and use him as a trade chip.

If they keep him, I hope that as well.

It is going to be looooooong season and looooong offseason... Again.

On Porecello's.

We need to start rebuilding the FO and coaching staff.

We have to rebuild this rotation. I'm done with this crap. Try to trade Miley and Porcello. Send Kelly to Pen. See what happens with Buch the res t of the season. Give to Masterson a couple starts, if he shits the bed, DFA. Call some arms from the farm and start making the diligences for possible 2016 FAs/trades.

Kelly sucks, send him to BP already.

I think it is time to rebuild. A lot of things have to be addressed.

Papi is officially done.

Very well played.

lol!

Thanks God, Farrell didn't apply the 7-run rule. We're still in the game.

He has to go.

OMG Robby Ross...

Well said Spud.