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Speaking for myself I think some managers asked him to go to the BP while making RP money and see what is left in that tank. Probably he didn't want to accept the role; after all he is already a millionaire and won CY.
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mmm not sure what yo mean with goalpost but it was a honest answer. Probably it is what is happening. Probably he is trying to sell himself higher. I don't blame him, but I don't blame GMs for not buying either.
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Moon, putting Porcello in the same tier of very good & HOF pitchers in terms of WAR (for instance) doesn't make sense at all, reason why your analysis is flawed and out of context to start off. FG & BR built several levels with different thresholds in every stat in order to differentiate pedigrees. In almost every stat based on those charts, he ranks between average and below average in his career. Both sources can't be wrong of what they see in Porcello. Said that, sure, you can do all the the analysis you want and believe whatever you want, but your arguments are way different of what 2 of the most respectable baseball sources see in Porcello (Between Average and Below Average)—based on their charts.
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Probably he is trying to sell that he is still a good pitcher (No. 3), but most managers think he is nothing but a No. 5 these days at best. Last year he was destroyed in the NL. The year before that he was destroyed in Boston.
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LOL as always you have better and easier answers than me compadre. Yeah, some 31 yo players are still in their prime but he looks like he is done.
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The issue moon is that FG and BR don’t use your scale in their charts. This is why your analysis is wrong and flawed. In FG for instance, they have 7 levels in every chart for each stat in order to rate a player. Also, those levels and thresholds change depending on the stat. Said that, this is why your analysis don’t apply to rate players. Take a look at the charts.
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It was my bad. The 1.9 bWAR represents his average bWAR through 162 games, BBR say “This is an attempt to condense each pitcher's career into a single season's worth of stats. With batters this is easy. Just take their career games played and divide by 162 and then divide their career totals by that factor. For pitchers, this is more difficult. What we have done is treat a pitcher season as having Games Pitched + Games Started = 68 as a single-season. So we normalize everything, so a pitcher has Games + Games Started = 68. So an average season is 34 starts or 68 relief appearances” OTOH if you divide his 20.1 bWAR/11.4 years he averages 1.7 bWAR/year. In any case he is a career Reserve Level Pitcher based on bWAR— below average.
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I’m just pointing out what FG and BBR call a pitcher something between average and below average based on Porcello’s career numbers.
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Wins Above Replacement for Pitchers From BBR “A single number that presents the number of wins the player added to the team above what a replacement player (think AAA or AAAA) would add. This value includes defensive support and includes additional value for high leverage situations. Scale: 8+ MVP Quality, 5+ All-Star Quality, 2+ Starter, 0-2 Reserve, Developed by Sean Smith of BaseballProjection.com”
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He is actually at reserve level based on the BBR chart. Between 0-2. He is not even at the Starter level (average) —2+ bWAR.
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Again, look at the charts. He is something between average and below average. I understand what you are trying to do here, but it doesn’t work that way. Also if you have more bad years than good in most of your career you can’t be a good pitcher. It’s that simple.
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Get MLB.TV.
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Ball game gentlemen!
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Incredible how this Toronto BP implodes over and over agin against us in late innings.
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Alex f Verdugo! Lol
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Valdez has been pitching pretty well.
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Also in terms of bWAR, he is a 1.7 bWAR pitcher through 11.4 years. The bWAR average is 1.9 bWAR. He is below average in that category as well.
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As you said, that is a flawed method. I think I told you before. For instance a career 2.6 fWAR pitcher can't be a No. 1 by any means. This is why fangraphs, baseball reference and other sources have their rule-of-thumb charts for each stat which actually consider large samples. In those charts Porcello consistently ranks in most of them, between the Average-Below Average level as I have been presented.
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Chavis in his last days in Boston uniform.
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Geez he didn't tag man
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Carita!
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yeah and he is actually imploding right now.
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I like Duran and all but I think I would put Verdugo in the second slot and unload a bit the pressure in Duran. Verdugo!
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Oh I see, thanks. I heard something about that but didn't put so much attention. Also, Hopefully JD is oks.
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Is Xander oks?
