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What do you think WMB is? Check out his BABIP. 2008: Lowell--------59g 226pa .380babip 32.3k% .254/.298/.368 2009: Greenville--103g 427pa .372babip 28.8k% .265/.349/.404 2010: Salem------114g 481pa .348babip 25.2k% .275/.328/.438 2011: Portland-----96g 397pa .363babip 23.9k% .302/.345/.520 Someone over at SP called him a Brandon Inge clone with more power. Also Ranaudo kind of got reviews similar to Matt Stone in BASEketball. Kalish is always hurt as well, check out the kind of trade value Jed Lowrie had today and he was proven he could hit major league hitting, what do you think Kalish's value is?

My thread is just better. I was delayed in making it cause I got a phone call. http://www.talksox.com/forum/talk-sox-forum/16061-little-nicky-punt-0h-thread.html

The Sox have signed LITTLE Nicky Punt-0H, this man is a grinder! He needs to have his own thread, if this gets closed to hell with you and to hell with Coach Devine. Let's just appreciate him.

I just remember him complaing the Yankees didn't use him right. I did agree with that tho cause they used him as a mop up guy but he was a rookie and the Yankees don't just give you pressure spots and when they did he always s*** the bed bad. Like Jackson said he struggled hard with the big stage. Whe he was with the Yankees and on TV he was 92-93, I do remember him touching 95 but not 96 and with little to no control haha. I still say its a good deal for the Sox unless Melancon is your closer. He'd be a nice 7th inning guy, IMO.

Im just going by watching him In 2010. Do I hate the move? No. Lowries going to be hurt and weiland was nothing.

[quote=MNSoxChief102;715162;)Melencon throws heat) Wtf melancon threw 92-93 when he was on the yankees. I believe he even dialed that down so he could get more control too.

Honestly if Nova wasn't home grown Yankee fans wouldn't be so hard for him. I think he's good and all but he shouldn't be our #2 cause he's not that type of pitcher. He's a #3 at best and should be our #4(on a team like the Yankees). I sometimes wonder what people are thinking when they go on and on about how Nova is the new Pettitte. I'd trade Nova tomorrow if the price was right.

haha. Yeah Derek Jeter doesn't have to give a lady a signed ball to sleep with him. He's Derek Jeter, the man could walk down a street and women would throw themselves on him.

:thumbsup: Jeter's the man.

Eh, I'd rather have Hamels if thats what it comes to.

He's back cause you read the market wrong. Your GM wanted the picks and thought there was no way Ortiz would accept a one year deal and he called your bluff.

What have the Rays or Yankees done? Yankees made two rule 5 claims and won the rights to a SS. Rays have done nothing. It's not like everyone around you is making big moves. No one other than the Angels and Marlins are and to a lesser extent the Jays.

Well first Ortiz would get about 75% of that DH time. Youk 10 and Larva 15-ish. Second Well I don't think Danks will be there at the off season. I believe he'll be traded but I just used him as an example. 1. You're not going to get more for Beckett than that. He's going to be 32 and be making 17 million for the next three years. Uehara is actually a good RP... he's also a lefty and the market is sky high right now for 'em. Lowe is also a good power arm. 2. Thats the type of return Billy will be looking for. If you're counting on Ranuado to be a fixture in your rotation then I'm sorry and I really mean that. 4. Beltran... hmm almost all the Red Sox fans have been jizzing their pants at the thought of him. I guess you're not one of them haha. 5. I was just looking around for a 3rd catcher, someone who can teach your two young catchers.

Here's some ideas.... Trades: Trade Josh Beckett and Jed Lowrie to the Rangers for Koji Uehara, Mark Lowe, Scott Feldman and Julio Borbon Trade Josh Reddick, Anthony Ranaudo and PTBNL(Matt Barnes) for Andrew Bailey Trade Micheal Bowden for Joe Saunders Free agent signings; Carlos Beltran 3/39 Ivan Rodriguez 1/4 Arbitration raises: Jacoby Ellsbury $8M Jarrod Saltalamacchia $1.6M Mike Aviles $1.4M Franklin Morales $975K Rich Hill $750K Matt Albers $1.1M Alfredo Aceves $2M Daniel Bard $1.8M Line up: Jacoby Ellsbury CF Dustin Pedroia 2B Adrian Gonzalez 1B David Ortiz DH Carlos Beltran RF Kevin Youkilis 3B Salty C Scutaro SS Carl Crawford LF Rotation: Lester Buchholz Saunders Aceves Feldman Bullpen: C- Bailey 8th- Bard 7th- Uehara 7th- Lowe RH- Jenks LH-Morales Long man - Hill/Miller Bench Pudge Aviles Laranway Borbon Justification: First letting Beckett go might be best for Lester. He's a bad seed. Getting maximun value for Beckett now might be best and given his large salary and long term deal will be good to unload. Creates payroll space to plug other holes. Rangers get a hometown hero and a nice #2 pitcher who could slot in behind Holland and maybe even Darvish. Red Sox get to add death to their bullpen in Uehara and Lowe. The depth will not be overlooked come August and September. Games become 6 innings with the reworked bullpen. Also looking for rebound from Feldman and Bourbon. Second adding a low salary closer like Bailey is key. Beane will not give him away but the nice thing about Billy is he sees value at all levels. I'd try to protect Bogarts and Middlebrooks but sacrafice Barnes. Reddick will give them a RF to plug into their offense until they find a better bat. Selling high on Ranaudo was key for me as well, before he turns into Brackman V2. Taking a gamble with Saunders in basically a salary dump. Bowden gives the D-Backs someone they can toss into their bullpen and Saunders gives the Red Sox a chance to compete with their offense every 5th day. Beltran was key in moving Beckett for me. Adding a bat like his would do wonders for the Sox and gives instant depth the lineup has been lacking. Pudge is just a move to mentor Salty and Ryan. I see a three team trio handling the duties behind the plate. As well as a three team trio at DH with Ortiz, Lavarnway and Youk The bullpen becomes one of the best in the league and rivals even the Yankees and now depleted Rangers. The rotation lacks firepower but I'd look towards the deadline to make a deal for Wandy Rodriguez or perhaps John Danks if the Sox sell him then. The bench looks interesting to me. Borbon is a super sub out there. Could run for the catchers, Ortiz, Youk or Beltran late in innings. I really like this team and think the trades are realistic compared to others I've seen. Remember people aren't going to give away talent for the people you don't want. I did all the time when I was younger. I'd have Alba, Kennedy, Karstens, Betemit, DeSalvo, TJ Beam, etc in every one of my trade offers. Every teams fan base does it. I remember saying Hughes, Betemit, Karstens and Horne for Matt Holiday and Manny Corpas and trying to justify it haha.

Considering the Yankees made a $35 million move just to make a move last year, I HIGHLY doubt they won't be major players for Darvish. I'm not saying they will win the posting but expect a fee over the 52 million dic-K got from the Sox. I think the Rangers might use some of that TV money and make a 76+ million bid tho and just shock baseball. The Yankees will then turn their heads to the two cubans and Danks.

Ellsbury is going to get PAID soon. why would they want him? Yankees could go in with a package of Montero, Gardner, Manny, Dellin, Hughes and maybe Eddie Nunez Sox could deal Ells off to the braves for Vizcaino and Delgado, throw in Buchholz and Bogearts and maybe Raundo. Then you'd have to combat the Rangers who could come at you with Holland headlining the package and top prospects who don't have a place in their system with Profar, Perez and Olt. Then add in guys like Ramirez, Mendez, Bourbon, Beltre, etc. It's useless to continue this though since the M's won't deal Felix.

I don't want to rain on your parade or well I do... if you want Felix on your team become Mariners fans. He is NOT going to be traded. Especially to the Red Sox. Their farm is a mess right now. They don't have the chips to get him. Even with Ellsbury. Think about it for a second. You're competing against 28 other teams. Think about what the Rangers or the Yankees or heck even the Braves could offer, then what you could offer. BUT mostly think about the Mariner's not trading Felix cause he's not going to be traded this off season.

Looks like he might have to sign... his old team is close to signing Esteban German to play SS. So if he doesn't sign with us he might have to ride the bench back in Japan.

Doesn't papelbon have an option year as well? You've been complaining how your GM has done nothing and when he might do something you still complain. haha

I think the Sox should make just some minor adjestments. Lowrie for Lowe swamp. Sign Madson for 4/44 Beg Cashman for Cabrera to be returned, give him a $1 million reward. Trade Bowden for Saunders in a salary dump Lineup remains unchanged. Rotation would be Lester, Beckett, Buchholz, Saunders and Aceves Bullpen would be Madson, Bard, Lowe, Jenks, Morales, Cabrera and Alberts. Payroll would be 182 to 183 million but can't compete without bending a few budgets. Midseason I'd go after any catcher who could be on the block. Kurt Suzuki would be my #1 target. By then some of the 2011 draftees might have gained a bit more trading value.