TheMino007

Think Ray Allen is coming back next year?

If the Sox wouldn't dish out the $ Bay wanted, why would they for Holliday, who will probably cost more?

Its not that he gives up goals, its that he gives up soft, terrible goals. All three tonight were terrible, the first and and the third were inexcusable. He looked like a f***ing fool out there on the game winner in OT

Johnny Gomes wasn't tendered yesterday, hope thats not a guy the Sox look at to platoon with Hermida in LF, but I really hope there isn't a platoon at all

I don't really have a preference, as long as the Sox sign one of them. Holliday is the better player, but Bay has proved he can play in Boston and handle the pressure. If the Sox don't re-sign Bay I'm not so sure that they will pursue Holliday b/c he will be more expensive than Bay and probably demand a longer contract in terms of years.

Is a 5th year really too much to ask? I mean could we save some money on Bay if we offered him 5 years 75 million? If Bay is really looking for a 5th year, maybe he would only take 15 mill per 5 years as opposed to 17-18 per

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10513552/Aces-Lee,-Halladay-in-same-deal?-It-could-work- The Phillies could trade Cliff Lee as part of deal for Roy Halladay which would obviously be involved with a third team with prospects? Wow, but I don't see it happening

per Foxsports.com, Bay has rejected the Red Sox offer of 4 year 60 million dollars, I don't know why the Sox would offer him a contract which he had already turned down a month ago. Anyway, it looks like that 5th year will be the deal maker in the contract negations. Bay's agent countered with 6 years between 16-18 million per year. From what I read the Mets are offering Bay a back loaded contract where he would make 10 mill in his first year and then increasing until 20 million in his final year.

Phillies could use Jenks

If they have stuck through 2 choke jobs in September to cost them playoff spots, and a terrible season mixed in last year, all with in the last 3 years mind you, the Mets fans won't jump off the ship now haha:)

are we going to sign Pedro's brother next again? hell bring him back and have 4 of them out there!

at first I was excited b/c he had a 4.22 ERA his first year, then I realized he has gotten steadily worse each of the last two years and I can see why he was DFA. Wouldn't surprise me though if we hung onto him in Pawtucket (can we?) and see him in the rotation at some point when Wake hits the DL.

It is a proposed trade, I saw it on ESPN's bottom line.

Didn't Rameriz bat close to .300 last year with close to .400 OBP? I know the guy has a knock on him for not being a defensive catcher, but if we do need him he'll be the 1st base/ DH type. I would be surprised and to be honest pissed if I ever saw this guy play for the Sox. I hope he would be a chip that is part of a package for Gonzazelz or Cabrera. Adrian Beltre isn't the answer heading into next season playing 3B for this team. His OBP has gone down the shitter over the years, and thats something you can't blame on playing at Safeco, neither can can his struggles against RHP.

Thanks for the memories Mike, you where a class guy. Hopefully he does well with the Rangers, well except when the Rangers face the Sox. So now it appears the Sox plan to make a big move, or sign Adrian Beltre. I really hope this move leads to the trading for Adrian Gonzalez or Miguel Cabrera.

The Rangers really dealt Millwood + cash for Ray? Wow

If he can stay healthy for the Rangers, its a nice signing. They had a hell of an offense last year and with some improved pitching they could be in the thick of things as a serious contender for the Wild Card. I wonder if they pursue Lackey, b/c they are a team that isn't a team that is afraid of spending money recklessly.

Well he better go do it before unloading Lowell....

ou can't give up a shot at a championship for something that might be in the future. Sure by the last years of that contract Bay will be totaly useless and Halladay will have no arm left, but for the majority of those contracts those guys are gonna be All-Stars and in Halladay's case, a top 5 player at his position. Those guys will help us win championships. Who is to say Kalish, Westmorland, Kelly, Anderson, etc. ever become anything? Then you have wasted 5+ years instead of a couple. Can't sacrifice the chance at winning it all for 3 or 4 years for a chance to do it in 5 years while being mediocre for 3 or 4.

Hmmm.... the Sox haven't traded for a power hitting 1stbaseman yet nor have the signed a 3rdbaseman yet... so forgive the question, why the hell would they trade Lowell? I hope to Christ the Sox have some sort of plan at the corner infield positions before they go and dump Lowell and eat half his salary for no reason

http://espn.go.com/boston/columns/redsox/blog/_/post/4725979/name/edes Well, that would make sense for why he crapped the bad at the end of last year. I'm not that high on MDC to begin with, but teamed up with Rameriz they will hopefully be effected in middle relief next year. What can we expect out of the two next year though?

I always thought a rebuilding year was a year you were expected to be terrible, a year in which you shed a lot of salary and your old guard of players and trot out there young guys and get them experience for the years beyond that year. This is not that. The old guard that was in peak form during are World Series runs are in decline or gone, guys like Schilling, Rameriz, Ortiz, Lowell, etc. and the problem is we don't have any prospects that are Major League ready to take their place next year. All our best prospects are in Double A and Single A. So what are the Sox gonna do, stick with our very good core and just put in a rentals for the next couple of years and be satisfied with barely making or missing the playoffs and having a winning record? I think that is a terrible waste of our core talent. This could be the last year of Papelbon, Beckett, and Martinez in a Sox uniform, these guys are very talented and it would be waste to just surround them with mediocrity. Also, you want to waste some of Pedrioa's, Youkilis's, Lester's, best seasons on team that isn't going anywhere if it stands pact by making small splashes in the offseason? Sounds stupid to me. Also, these kids in Double and Single A, guys like Kelly, Westemorland, Iglesias, Anderson, etc. are at least 2, even three years away from being productive major league players. You want a stop gap solution and above mediocrity for that long? 2 years of that? No way. You make a a couple of tweaks to this team and your right back atop the American League. Money should be no objective and trading these young prospects for young guys who only in their 20's and proven or a dependable guy like Roy Halladay is the way to go. Theo shouldn't sit on his hands and do nothing, this transitional year thing is a load of crap.

I really wouldn't want Ordonez here by himself, I'd would really only want to take him if he was a thrown in for a Cabrera deal that helped us get him.

Sure the Tigers can get Ellsbury, Buchholz and some top rated prospects in our system, but if they are they better be sending back Verlander and Miggy Cabrera haha