mvp 78

One of his best starts of the year was simply "below average." Ok?

I like to mix it up just so that people forget I'm a bot.

Stop it! He's already dead.

Just one bad pitch!

He had really high mileage on his arm before we got to him.

4 games.

People bitch about everything. I thought they should have picked up Kenta Maeda, but people would just whine about how horrible DiceK was (even though he was pretty good).

Or any number of other pitchers...

Swihart goes back down when Holt comes back.

And factually, his option should not have been picked up because it was reasonable to expect these results...

I thought high A was comparable to D1, not low A?

VA for mod.

Oh, so it's better that the Sox hired a roid dealer who wound up killing people?!? Great! Boy, this team is squeaky clean. Nothing to see here folks!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/175226-the-majority-of-boston-red-sox-used-steroids "I'm in spring training, and I got an 8:30-9:00 meeting in the morning," said Merloni, 38, a native of Framingham, Massachusetts and graduate of Providence College who played five seasons on Yawkey Way as an infielder from 1998-2003. "And I walk into that office, and this happened while I was with the Boston Red Sox before this last regime, I'm sitting in the meeting. There's a doctor up there and he's talking about steroids, and everyone was like 'Here we go, we're gonna sit here and get the whole thing—they're bad for you.' No. He spins it and says 'You know what, if you take steroids and sit on the couch all winter long, you can actually get stronger than someone who works out clean, if you're going to take steroids, one cycle won't hurt you, abusing steroids it will.'” WEEI-AM’s “Big Show” co-host continued, “He sat there for one hour and told us how to properly use steroids while I'm with the Boston Red Sox, sitting there with the rest of the organization, and after this I said 'What the heck was that?' And everybody on the team was like 'What was that?' And the response we got was 'Well, we know guys are taking it, so we want to make sure they're taking it the right way'... Where did that come from? That didn't come from the Players Association."

http://archive.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2009/08/02/sox_fired_two_in_steroids_case/ The security staffers said they were dismissed after what they termed a cursory inquiry by Major League Baseball, and very limited questioning by the team - even though one of the guards says he swapped advice about steroids with David Ortiz’s close friend and personal assistant. Both men said they told investigators they had no direct knowledge of steroid use by Red Sox players, including Manny Ramírez or Ortiz, both of whom were named in a New York Times report last week as having tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs in 2003. But, in interviews with the Globe, both revealed clubhouse details that could have fueled a more zealous inquiry. And the investigation did not even resolve the basic question of where the steroids the security staffer was caught with came from. “I’m sure they were hoping I didn’t know anything,’’ said Jared Remy, one of the security staffers who lost his job. “It’s like they didn’t want to know. It’s like: Do we really want to know or do we just want it to go away?’’

And the vast majority of Yankees noted above were pre-Mitchell Report too.

Donnie Sadler Paxton Crawford story: "During minor league spring training with the Red Sox in 1999, some of the other guys saw I was hurting. They told me that if I took this stuff, it would make the pain go away and cut my recovery time in half. Shoot, why not? I'm just a country boy; I didn't even think twice. "I was probably using the most back in 2001, when I made the Red Sox rotation out of spring training. About that time I was getting pretty big, and another player introduced me to human growth hormone, which had started to make the rounds in the majors. I got a kit with two bottles: One was filled with some kind of water, and the other was filled with these tiny crystals. I put a few drops into the crystals and -- poof! -- it became liquid. I thought, Boy, what the hell are you putting into your body? But I did it anyway. "Back in 2001, I thought I was the man. I had no shame, and I thought nobody could touch me. One time, I walked right into the Red Sox clubhouse with a bunch of needles wrapped in a towel and left them on my chair. A few minutes later, one of my teammates came running over, saying, 'Paxton, someone knocked your chair over and your freaking needles are all over the floor!' Man, we just died about that. He said it was the funniest thing he'd ever seen, told me I was nuts. But that's the way it was back then."

List of players who have ties to steroids or have been suspended for steroids (Ramirez/Alexander).

Make an offer.

David Ortiz Manny Ramirez Paxton Crawford Manny Alexander Jose Canseco Mo Vaughn Chris Donnels Mike Lansing Kent Mercker Mike Stanton Eric Gagne Brendan Donnelly Josias Manzanillo

Manny Ramirez Manny Alexander David Ortiz

Needs more bullfrog.

There is a Yankees forum on here, correct? So why put this here?

If Farrell has success in the post season this year, I'll stop believing that his previous ring was due solely to the players and will give him the proper amount of credit going forward. Tito is still better though.