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I never inferred he was. I was just stating that if he had been given a complete team that it would have been interesting to see the results. So far, his GM's have given him some very mediocre squads that he utilized well.

I'm with Bell.

1. Salty is still in the league because he's far younger than Ross was. 2. Ross' WAR was less because of the fewer games played. 3. Salty's defense was always suspect. That's not up for debate and some retrospective rose colored glasses treatment. 4. Your "very bold" decision was something that was more than obvious to a lot of people. Salty's terrible defense was a large part of the losses in Games 2 and 3. Hard to call it "brilliant" when you throw away 2 WS games. More like flying by the seat of your pants. 5. WMB wasn't all that more experienced than Xander at the time. WMB had been up and down in the organization that year and was a replacement level bat and worse for defense. Xander was seen as a more athletic guy who gave them a better chance of winning. WMB played a half season in 2012 before getting injured. In 2013 he was handed the 3b position for opening day and he just fumbled the opportunity away. He never adjusted to MLB pitching and was hitting .200 when sent down at the end of May. You can keep saying things like "it's beyond me why you thought this," but the fact of the matter is that in those examples I had the correct instinct. Farrell took too long to adjust. This team won in spite of Farrell thanks to a generational performance by Papi and Koji.

He took over a rough Yankees team and handed the keys over to Torre with the important pieces in place. Of his 3 years with Arizona, he only had Schilling for 1/2 of a year. The team won the WS the year after he left. The Rangers squad was pretty bad aside from ARod. They had a few prospects that they moved on from too early. The Orioles were a year in and year out bottom feeder until he came aboard. They have no pitching, but have had decent success. It would be interesting to see how he'd do with a stacked team. The 1999 Arizona team was his best team and they won 100 games by bashing the crap out of the ball. They were a team built for regular season success.

And yet there are people who still hold Manny's stunts against him...

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/07/cashman-aroldis-chapman-trade-andrew-miller-Guardians-red-sox-pitching-royals-wade-davis-asking-price-trade-deadline-rumors.html Red Sox president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski suggested today that the action is heating up, but that his team isn’t close to striking any major new deals, as Pete Abraham of the Boston Globe reports (Twitter links.) Boston’s chief baseball decisionmaker said that he has fielded five new trade proposals today alone, with other organizations seemingly looking to make off with some of the team’s prime prospect assets. But while ESPN.com’s Jayson Stark cited rivals as suggesting that the Sox were aiming to do “something big,” via Twitter, Dombrowski said that the team doesn’t feel pressure to pull off another move. One area that the Red Sox have some obvious room for improvement is the bullpen, particularly with Koji Uehara looking like a major question mark down the stretch and Craig Kimbrel still working his way back. But with Kimbrel seemingly progressing well, Dombrowski suggested that the organization doesn’t feel compelled to add relief help, as Abraham further tweets. Meanwhile, though Red Sox righty Clay Buchholz isn’t filling much of a present role, Dombrowski says that he’s still an important part of the team’s rotation depth, as Jen McCaffrey of MassLive.com reports. With Dombrowski also saying he is impressed with the way Buchholz is throwing the ball, it doesn’t seem as if there’s any momentum towards a deal involving the veteran.

Only for a one time competitive team that doesn't compete next year or the next few? I'd say no since we already have 3 recent WS rings. 2013 was great! 2012, 2014 and 2015 were trainwrecks that I don't want to repeat.

The O's have a manager that seems to get the most out of his team.

Ok, you can. I can't.

Just the percentages. The most likely chance is that Dombrowski is gone before another flag flies.

He was under contract and walked off the job in a gorilla suit. It was a horrible lapse in judgement. You can't separate the two. It happened at the same time.

He never really "sucked" at his job. Also, a certain poster that is forever bashing Theo was pretty happy with him after they signed CC. To me, Ben and Theo were cut from the same cloth and the Org didn't change all that much from one guy to the next. I think Dombrowski is bringing a new perspective and time will tell if he is as successful as his predecessors. Chances are, they won't win a WS under Dombrowski though.

By any means necessary...

Does he turn into 2004 DLowe?

I thought they'd use Hill a lot more than they are. I don't think Farrell did a bad job last night.

Agreed.

I think people didn't like Gomes' glove and his platoon was a little rough. It was believed that Nava had a better chance of hitting RHP and LHP. I don't think the difference between either was all that great.

You asked which decisions were questionable. I just made a list of what people questioned on the internet at the time. To me, the best lineup was Xander at 3b (WMB couldn't hit or field), Drew at SS (solid defense) and Ross at C (solid defense). I know we all goofed on here about the Gomes/Nava situation and said that Gomes should start every game because they were like 8-0 when he started in the postseason. We weren't being entirely serious about it so I didn't put it in the list.

Not guaranteed if they are fighting for a spot down the stretch. I could see them throwing Price out there in game 161 or 162 to help ensure a WC birth.

They always are even if the Sox don't make any moves.

I stated I didn't want Salty to start. You said "sure you didn't." I found proof that I didn't want him starting and you dismissed it. At the end of the day, I know what my feelings were and no amount of evidence would change your mind anyway. Roommate 1: what did you guys do last night? Roommate 2: watched the Sox and ate pizza. R 1: sure you did. R 2: the pizza box is on the table and the tv is set to NESN. R 1: no, I still don't believe you.

Professionalism isn't walking out on a job when things don't go your way 100% of the time. He walked away while under contract. It's not a good look. I don't like Larry either, but instead of fixing the problem, he put on a gorilla suit and disappeared. It was about as professional as tearing up some throwback jerseys.

Bryce played better in AA than Benintendi. Stop making the prospect out to be something more than he is right now. Someday he'll be better than Brentz, but that day is not today.

I won't because there aren't any. We were talking about the World Series. That post was in direct reference to the World Series. Enjoy telling me how I felt 3 years ago though.

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