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  1. @RedSox FINAL: Twins 4, #RedSox 1 Last DAMN place in the Mayor's Cup...
  2. https://twitter.com/Cut4/status/1233485874052108288
  3. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/02/who-else-could-the-red-sox-target-in-trades.html When Wil Myers’ name surfaced in trade rumblings surrounding the Padres, Red Sox and Mookie Betts, it seemed like a fairly straightforward thought process. The Padres wanted to acquire a star (Betts), had been seeking to jettison some of Myers’ contract and didn’t want to pay both Myers’ $20MM salary and Betts’ $27MM salary. But when the Myers-to-Red Sox rumors reemerged even after Betts had been traded to the Dodgers, that was more surprising. Eventually, Alex Speier of the Boston Globe reported that the Sox’ aim in those talks was to use some of their newfound payroll space and luxury tax breathing room to effectively purchase some young pitching from the Padres. The basic premise: take on half of Myers’ contract and also acquire a pitcher such as Cal Quantrill to immediately plug into the mix at the MLB level. However, per Speier, there’s not much optimism at the moment that such a deal will come together. However, it’s not as simple as just picking out a big-time contract and saying, “Let’s dump this on the Red Sox along with [Player X]!” Myers’ contract was something of an ideal fit for the Sox. The Padres aggressively backloaded his six-year, $83MM deal to the point that Myers earned only $7MM in salaries from 2017-19 (in addition to a weighty $15MM signing bonus). That’s notable for the Red Sox because they’re still “only” about $12-13MM shy of the luxury barrier. Taking on a bad contract with a $20MM+ annual salary over its full term — the relevant data point from a competitive balance tax perspective — would put them right back into the tax territory that ownership insisted on escaping erm, was … happy to escape as an ancillary benefit of building a competitive window … or however they choose to try to spin it. Myers came with a $13.8MM luxury hit — and the cash the Padres would’ve included in the deal (a reported $30MM or so) would’ve essentially dropped Boston’s luxury obligation to $3.8MM. That’s an ideal balance of flexing the club’s deep pockets without running the risk of even approaching the luxury barrier. It’s easy to suggest Albert Pujols ($24MM AAV), Justin Upton ($23MM), Jason Heyward ($23MM), Chris Davis ($23MM), Matt Carpenter ($18.5MM) and plenty of others as a plausible fit, but Myers presented Boston with the rare opportunity to absorb half of a player’s remaining contract (and more than 36 percent of the total value) while only increasing their luxury payroll by about 1.9 percent. That’s not going to be the case with such high-AAV players. Arrangements like the Myers deal are tough to find. Myers may well have been the single best target for this prospect-purchasing gambit — but he’s not the only one. Let’s take a speculative look at who else the Red Sox could inquire on in an effort to pursue a similar template but with a different trade focal point: Rougned Odor, Rangers, 2B (three years, $36MM remaining on six-year, $49.5MM deal) To say the Odor extension hasn’t worked out for the Rangers would be putting things mildly; he’s hit .219/.285/.419 since putting pen to paper three years ago, and the bulk of the guarantee is yet to be paid out Maybe they wouldn’t be keen on using Kolby Allard (or someone similar) to rid themselves of the Odor contract, but if you’re the Red Sox, that’s an avenue to explore. It’s not like second base is a position of great certainty in Boston at the moment, anyhow. Kyle Seager, Mariners, 3B (two years, $37MM remaining on seven-year, $100MM deal*) The asterisk next to Odor’s name is necessitated by his contract’s “poison pill” — i.e. a $15MM club option that turns into a player option in the event of a trade. He’s at two years and $37MM only while donning a Mariners jersey; the moment he’s traded, that effectively becomes three years and $52MM. Dee Gordon, Mariners, 2B/OF (one year, $14.5MM remaining on five-year, $50MM deal) Same concept as Seager but with slightly different details. Gordon is a man without a position in Seattle and a free agent at season’s end. Gordon’s deal comes with a $10MM luxury hit that the Sox could shoehorn into their ledger without going over the barrier, but they’d have minimal breathing room. Randal Grichuk, Blue Jays, OF (four years, $43MM remaining on five-year, $52MM deal) It’s hard not to wonder if the Jays would like a mulligan on last spring’s extension after Grichuk slashed .232/.280/.457 in 2019, effectively playing at replacement level. Then again, the Grichuk deal was a head-scratching move for most onlookers (myself included), as he didn’t appear to be a clear extension candidate. The Sox aren’t getting Nate Pearson or anyone close to that caliber out of this deal, but paying a good chunk Grichuk’s deal in an effort to acquire a controllable fourth/fifth starter would be plenty defensible. Ian Desmond, Rockies, INF/OF (two years, $26MM remaining on five-year, $70MM deal) Colorado owner Dick Monfort opened the season by declaring a lack of payroll flexibility (and, after a winter of inactivity, bizarrely proclaimed that the same Rockies club that lost 91 games in 2019 would win 94 games in 2020). The Rockies aren’t exactly teeming with high-end pitching talent — hence the 91 losses in 2019 — but they have seven or eight starters on the 40-man roster and in Triple-A behind German Marquez, Jon Gray and Kyle Freeland.
  4. We'll see if Lucroy has a bounce back season after getting his neck fixed. I know a lot of young catchers look up to him. Even if he flames out, he probably would be a better bench coach than Variturd.
  5. @byJulianMack That’s J.D Martinez’s first spring training homer ever with the Sox. This year's Pedro Ciriaco.
  6. @alexspeier LHP Kyle Hart had a strong two-inning outing vs Twins big leaguers. Mixed speeds and locations well, topping out at 91. He’s already defied some odds to get to the 40-man roster. Guys like Hart should have an inside track to getting a 5th spot in the rotation before a retread like Brian Johnson or Hector Velazquez.
  7. He is, but would you be ok with them signing McHugh, who wouldn't be ready on Opening Day either?
  8. Alex Gonzalez was not equivalent to Renteria.
  9. I forgot the Yankees would even want to start Clint FrAAAAzier. I guess a 0.1 fWAR is kinda nasty.
  10. I was thinking Todd Frazier. My bad.
  11. Not yet. I grabbed some tickets for the games on the other side of Lake O.
  12. Campusano hasn't played above A ball. Why would you take on 3.8M in CBT space just for him?
  13. Honestly, Urshela could totally tank this year. Voit came back to earth last year. Aside from last year, DJ only had one other season above 100 OPS+. Frazier and Gardner are both on the back 9. I think a lineup without Stanton and Judge could go south really quick.
  14. The rumor is that they are now less likely to package young SP's with Myers (Quantril, Luchessi, etc.). If that's the case, the Sox should not be interested in the deal at all unless they are absolutely overwhelmed with prospects.
  15. Wade Miley? The guy who was better in MIL in 2018 than in HOU in 2019? That guy?
  16. What the Padres want is for the Sox to take on more salary. I think it'd be a bad move.
  17. He wanted his man crush Julio Lugo.
  18. Explanation: Sox fans are idiots too Renteria had a bad year in the field but I don’t believe it meant he couldn’t play in Boston. He played well on baseball’s biggest stage (aka World Series).
  19. OCab, the guy who had 8 errors in only 50 games in 2004? That butcher? There's no way the Sox fans would have liked him! More like OBad.
  20. But wouldn't they have noticed how horrible his glove was? I mean, your main assertion is that Sox fans hated Renteria because of his glove and it had nothing to do with his batting.
  21. @JonHeyman Collin McHugh has recently been given the go-ahead to begin throwing after a tenex procedure alleviated an elbow concern. Could be a nice late-spring sign. Thanks to his versatility, nearly every team has checked in.
  22. If that was the case WHY DID THEY LOVE NOMAR SO MUCH? https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/garcino01.shtml Maybe they just liked that Nomar blamed all his errors on the groundskeeper?
  23. @SPChrisHatfield . @BaseballAmerica ranked the #RedSox system 20th. That feels right, although saying anything beyond that would be outside my expertise.
  24. Edgar Renteria has a 2005 season that mirrors his 2004 season prior to signing with the Sox. Red Sox fans: surprised Pikachu face
  25. The book should have just been titled: 13 years until the greatest TalkSox poster arises. That's a far more important day IMO.
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