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About 20 or so years ago Pesky was gravely ill and people didn't think he'd make it. I don't know what medical condition he had, but the guy bounced back for 20+ more years. He's got the greatest attitude which has no doubt contributed to his longevity.

...or he just got tired of the frigidly cold Boston weather.

Something to look forward to.

How come the Red Sox doctors never pick up these injuries when they perform the physicals prior to the contract signings. Schilling's shoulder was in tatters and they didn't notice. This is why I am not very enthusiastic about Penny, Snoltz or Baldelli.

What's up with you? Is your menstrual cycle hitting or did your mommy forget to restock the Chips Ahoy cookies?

"Whiney little girl"? "Conspiracy"? Have you been drinking on a school night? I don't care how fat he is. Paraphrasing Mickey Lolich, he's a pitcher not an athlete. Plenty of good pitchers have been over-weight. The picture is very funny, but it has to be some sort of distortion. Boomer Wells didn't have flab like that.

That has to be Photo-shopped. There is no way the guy has a gut like that. I have seen him up close. There's just no way. It's some sort of distortion or something.

I never said "you should never trade a back of the rotation starter for a project" My statement was: I called him a solid rotation guy, because I view him as being better than almost every team's #5 and he has been more consistent than lots of #4's. I would trade many back of the rotation guys, because most of them suck and are not solid contributors. If you are going to criticize statements of mine, please get the statement right. Although I made a simple statement, you interpreted it incorrectly.

Find me a single post where I called Youkilis "s***". Otherwise, shut up. I think he did better than most people expected last season, but I never thought he was a bad player. Duh? Did n't I post a couple of times that I was in favor of the WMP trade when it was made? BTW, WMP didn't have an accident or anything. He was a trainwreck. He couldn't field or make contact at the plate, plus he had no instinct for the game. Our scouting should have picked this up.

I appreciate your apology. With few exceptions, while we have disagreed passionately, we have managed to keep our exchanges respectful.

I don't know the full context of this post, but it seems that someone else compared Youk to Eckstein without power. My reply that "who needs Eckstein without speed" could have been sarcasm. While I have been in favor of trading Youk in the past, I would never have made that comparison in a serious vein. I can assure you that i wasn't the only one with those observations. Jim Rice and Jerry Remy openly questioned his big swing and advised that he should shorten it. I have very publicly admitted that I was wrong about Pedroia. So, your point is that if I am wrong about a player, my opinion should be disgarded? Should Rice and Remy be ignored too? What about all the NFL coaches and GM s that passed on Johnny Unitas and Curt Warner or the experts that thought Larry Bird was too slow and couldn't jump? Should all of their future opinions be disregarded. It's typical of a poor argument to bring up irrelevant situations to bolster a weak argument. We have not been discussing Pedroia or Youkilis. We have been discussing Arroyo's value as a #5 starter. He's solid. It can't be denied. You claim that this discussion is so unimportant to you that it is not worth your time to engage in a statistical analysis supporting your argument. Oddly enough, it is worth your time to research my posts from almost 3 years ago. What's up with that? Either you don't realize that this is irrelevant information that doesn't support your argument, or you are so obsessed with discrediting my opinion that you will research years of my posts to do so. Either way, you are being hypocritical and disingenuous when you claim that this doesn't matter to you. Other posters have pointed this out. BTW, bringing up irrelevant posts in an argument to discredit a poster with regard to a different topic is a smear tactic. You should stick with arguing a point rather than arguing with the poster. These were the lessons that I learned from the WMP trade I never said that it wasn't a reasonable conclusion, but you tend to state your theories as rock solid conclusions. They are not. They may be reasonable conjecture, but they are still conjecture. Maybe the Sox traded Arroyo, because they thought that he had topped out. If he had stayed the additional year and pitched well, the FO might have changed its mind about him, or he might have bombed out and ended up in the bullpen as a spot starter with no real FA FMV. Neither of us know how it would have tured out if he had stayed, but given his subsequent performance it is relatively clear that they should have gotten more for him than WMP.

When was this? And who is talking about Youkilis? I love the posters who look to tar me with a past opinion about a player that is not being discussed, but they will never hold the FO accountable for a truly terrible trade like the Wily Mo trade. Somehow, my judgment is impugned because of a past mistake, but the FO is still doing a great job, despite Wily Mo and Lugo and others. Anyway, to address the irrelevant case of Youkilis that you have interjected, prior to last year, it was my opinion that Youk was a .280 hitter with 15 Hrs and 80 RBI. I didn't expect him to step up his power game at age 28. Even though I would have sold high on him if the Sox got Teixeira to alleviate the logjam at 1st and 3rd base. I never said that he wasn't any good. While wins may not be the best indicator of how a pitcher oitches from year to year, if he consistently puts up 10 to 15 wins every year and 200+ innings, the guy has established himself as a very reliable back of the rotation pitcher.

The last time the Red Sox had a 5th starter with 10 or more wins it was Arroyo. Fifth starters with 200+ innings and 10+ wins are very rare. Just because the Reds overpaid the guy doesn't mean that the Red Sox would have done the same. If he had remained with the Red Sox, there is no way of knowing if he would have reached a $10 million/year fair market value. Bulcholz was a disaster last year. It was his terrible performance that was probably most responsible for finishing behind the Rays. As far as the difficulty of pitching in the ALE, I think there is a lot of hype. If you pitch on the Yankees or the Sox, you only have to face one of the big powers in the division, so it's not all that tough. Wakefield with his puff ball has put up 15+ wins a number of times. Burkett won more than 10 games. Moose won 20 for the only time in his career after he lost his velocity and was throwing slop.

Welcome. I feel your pain. I also live behind enemy lines. In what part of NY do you live?

:lol:Do you think the players hire agents to educate them about the details of the Collective Bargaining Agreement? The agent is hired to get the player the best financial deal. Boras screwed up, not Varitek.

I realize that it does, but I had never before heard or read anything making that connection. Even though he was being sarcastic, his sarcasm seems to be directed at some criticism he perceives regarding the 2000 team. I had never heard that criticism.