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1951 Brooklyn Dodgers has a bigger collapse than 1978.

Nope

I would never trade an everyday star/MVP candidate for any pitcher. Even if Ellsbury isn't as good next season, he'll probably still be a star.

Theo the Ivy Leaguer with his prestigious degree in American Studies for Yale. There are few more useless degrees.

It reminds me of a coed softball league that I played in for work. The idiot manager decided to go with a boy-girl-boy-girl lineup. The guys got walked and we never scored any runs. What is he thinking about putting Lowrie between Ortiz and Agon. He has lost it.

Ridiculous!!!

Damn!

If I had a nickle for every time you made an optimistic prediction this month that went down in flames, Id have a lot of nickels.

I did see that inning where Price imploded. It was a circus. He threw the ball all over the field, but my recollection is that he has been tough on the Yankees.

They may dig deep and survive, but it will have to an extraordinary effort by the players who are woefully undermanned at this point. Regardless of whether they advance, no one othe than IOrtiz and myself saw this coming down to the final series with the Sox on the brink of elimination. Do you know what a long shot bet it was for the Sox to play this badly?

There are several posters on this forum who you should not want to sound like, but I'm not one of them. LOL! Especially considering that I am almost always right. Only me and IOrtiz could see the direction this team was heading in after the first week of September. We were called pessimists, but. unfortunately we were right.

89 wins with 2 games left to play is terrible under performance for $174 million, even if they make the playoffs. This is all on the head of Theo and Tito, mainly Theo. To blame it on the players is a copout. Obviously, they win or lose the games, but unless they are just not trying, how do you blame them for not being good enough. The FO takes the hit for them not being good enough. The FO assembles the team and they spent a ton fdoing it. If they lost because the players quit, that is also a management issue. Managers need to motivate and GMs should not be signing players who are not highly motivated. I don't think the players quit. It wasn't an issue of motivation. They simply weren't good enough. That's Theo's department. Since we have a lot of our big ticket players coming back and there will probably be few changes, if management is also not changed, I see no basis to believe that they will win 95 games next season. This collapse will be the worst collapse in history taking into account the expectations and the payroll. Two collapses in two years... Heads must roll. Theo spends money like a drunk sailor and his record on his spending is horrendous. The minor leagues have no big help coming anytime soon. He's got to go. He's no longer the wunderkid. He's just another under performing GM.

The Yankees will be going through the motions. The only way Tampa loses one of the two games is if 1 of their starters shits the bed and gives up a big early inning.

Thanks E1 for bringing the doom and gloom.

This is two seasons in a row where the team has gone into a tailspin and collapsed. These have been total collapses. Last year everyone blamed injuries and some people are still willing to make the injury excuse. Injuries were the catalyst for both collapses. This year the injuries happened later so the collapse didn't happen until September. However, injuries are part of the game. Other teams including the Yanks have had injuries in 2010 and 2011. Our injuries have sent the 2010-11 Sox teams into precipitous tailspins. Neither the 2010 or 2011 team had the necessary depth to mitigate the effect of the injuries. These have not been soundly built teams.

It will take 2 wins to force a 1 game playoff. I don't see that happening. The Yankees have absolutely no incentive to win. This is what I have feared for 3 weeks. Lester loses his last 3 starts. Beckett loses his last 2 starts. Papelbon blows a game and Bard has melted down 2-3 times. All of this has happened in this run. It has nothing to do with injuries. It has nothing to do wit fatigue. Beckett, Lester and Papelbon were coddled all year. Their workloads were very carefully managed. They just couldn't step up at all.

But feel free to text John Lackey.

Aceves can be the 7th/8th inning guy next year. Keep him there with his 9-2 record and great ERA. Put Bard and his 2-9 record in the starting rotation. It straightened Derek Lowe about 10 years ago.

Just trying to get off the topic of the game.

This FO brought two World Championships and for that I am grateful. However, I have never experience a collapse like this. For this, I will never forgive them.

Broken clavicle?