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That is impressive. When I was a kid in the '60's and early 70's, I could name just about every one on every team's roster. I would probably still do pretty well on a 60's quiz. You rocked this quiz. You obviously ate, drank and slept baseball in the 90's.

Schiraldi took plenty of blame too. I think his promising career was derailed by his experience in that World Series. I was happy when they shipped him out of town, so I didn't have to be reminded of that Series.

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People forget that till this day there is bad blood between Johnny mac and clemens. Years later Johnny Mac claimed that Clemens asked out of the game. Clemens has denied it. If Billy Bucks had been the only goat, that pitching change would not have been discussed for more than 10 years.

There were plenty of goats for the fans at the time. You are younger than me, but I can tell you that all of those guys-- Gedman, Stanley, Clemens and Johnny Mac were all getting blamed by Boston fans. The Buckner play will always be the enduring visual of that Series. He can't escape that. As far as I am concerned you are the Queen of TalkSox.

It was inarguably the turning point of the Series, so they will always show it. I was drunk before game 7 started, because I had to dull the pain that was going to be inevitable. As far as blame, there was plenty to go around. Everyone was blamed from Gedman, Stanley, Clemens and McNamara. After 2004, no one discussed it anymore. That doesn't change the fact that the Buckner play will continue to be the play that defines that Series. There were plenty of goats discussed by the fans. It wasn't limited to Bill Bucks. To say that Bucks took all the blame is completely inaccurate. Similarly, we have to be subjected to the Bucky Dent HR and it was the Reggie HR later on that proved to be the winning run. Dent's HR was the turning point, so that's what we'll see-- that plus Yaz's popup.

If you want to know how fans with fully formed adult brains felt at the time it happened just pay attention to my posts. It was devastating.

He acted like a dick. If he had acted at all like he felt bad about it, people would have had empathy for him. He was not a likable guy. He even acted like a dick about having the ball. When some guy was selling the ball for big bucks, Buckner claimed that he had the ball. Check out the video footage. Buckner never goes back to pick up the ball. He just walked off the field.

He had a bad ankle for his entire career. It was a degenerative condition. He'd been playing on one leg for the last three-quarters of his career. Just as heroes are created by one play so are goats. Other than Red Sox fans, few remember that Bernie Carbo hit the 3 run HR to tie the game up allowing Fisk to hit the game winner. People remember Mazeroski's Series winning HR, but they don't remember Hal Smith's 3-run HR in the 8th inning that gave the Pirates the lead going into the 9th inning. Bobby Thompson is remembered for the Shot Heard Around the World, but no one remembers that 3 other giants got hits in that inning. Buckner is remembered because his was the last in a series of miscues in the pivotal game of the World Series. If the Stanley wild pitch had been the final play, that would be what would be remembered. They are always going to show the final play. The goat grudge didn't last as long as people think. When he returned to the Sox at the beginning of 1990, he was warmly received with a standing ovation. The New England grudge was gone, but the play will live on in infamy, because it was last.

Wakefield has apparently said that he would like to play next season and pursue Clemen's record. He's not going to make it easy on management. Players are always the last ones to know when their tanks are empty. The Sox have to put sentimentality aside. It's the right thing to do for the organization and the right thing for Wakefield. He'll just continue to embarrass himself if he pitches in 2012. Timmy, read the poll results in every New England paper, wake the hell up. You're done.

He's been very effective against left handed pitching. He has helped the Tigers a lot since they acquired him.

His ERA is 5+. I don't think the bats are the problem. It's time to go in a different direction. He's got nothing left in the tank. He can't get his pitches down in the zone anymore. He's a sitting duck up in the zone. Look at the guy's #'s. He's fallen off the cliff in the last few years.

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Sometimes you just need to man up and take responsibility, like Papelbon did late in the season. He didn't look to deflect any blame . In 1978, Yaz made no excuses. He said the Gossage beat him. He didn't bring up that he hit a HR off Guidry and an RBI single against Gossage- two of the toughest pitchers in the game. Buckner never manned up like that. He always said that it wasn't "the key play of the World Series". Well, how can that be? I've seen the play 10,000 times. He also said that it was a minor miscalculation. What? Even if there had been other bad plays leading up to that play, Buckner was still the goat of that series. There were several opportunities for the Sox to put away that Series, and many of them had to do with Buckner. I think he still holds the record for LOB in a World Series. Until game 7, I think Buckner had 3, maybe 4, base hits. I think he had a hit or 2 in game 7. Overall, my recollection is that he hit something like .188 (.143 after 6 games). The Mets were loading the bases to pitch to him. If there were less than 2 outs, he would hit into a DP. If he had just gotten 1 or 2 hits in those situations, the Series would have been blown wide open. He didn't and he never acknowledged that he had had a truly horrendous series. He was justifiably the goat, and fans like me didn't like that he never acknowledged the part that he played. He should not have been harassed in his personal life, but he was the goat of the Series without question.

Tebow is in for the Broncos

i've discussed that both the Tiger and the Rangers made some very key valuable acquisitions at the trading deadline. Similarly the Brewers and the cards made key acquisitions. Brewers: KRod and Jerry Hairston Cards: Edwin Jackson, Dotel, and Furcal The remaining four teams reinforced their rosters. It's no accident that they are where they are.

First they lost Delmon Young and now Mags. The Tigers have an uphill battle.

I don't suspect Ellsbury. I'm just using him as an example that we could suspect lots of people. As for Ortiz's "return to dominance", he had a monster year against righties in 2010, much better than he did in 2011. In 2010, he in fact had a very strong overall year. In 2011, he made an adjustment to take lefties the other way. I don't think PED's help you do that. His power output stayed at the same, and it went down significantly against righties. I don't think PED's would help you against lefties but hurt your performance against righties. That just doesn't make sense. The fact is that once Ortiz got over his wrist injury, he has remained a big force since June 2009. You can suspect, but I think you are way off base. I posted in this forum in May of 2009 that Ortiz still had bat speed and that his obit was premature. Look at his overall stats from June 2009, not his splits, and you will see that he has been a very consistent offensive force since then. 2011 was not such a big bounce back season. He made adjustments to keep himself from becoming a platoon player, but those adjustments actually hurt his performance against righties.