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day/night doubleheader on Sat sounds good to me.

If it's on before 10 I can get this one in.

Sox are doing great tonight..... "More! More! More!" I love Bob's! That has to be the most eventually-annoying commercial they've ever made. But right now I laugh everytime I hear "More!"

I was thinkin it would be really cool for Wake to get 20 wins this year. To do so he'll have to go through the White Sox, Yanks (twice), Toronto, Baltimore, Tampa Bay and the Twins and win 5 of them. I don't think it will happen, but it would be sweet! gg. :papelbon:

Welcome to the site. You'll like it here.

Curt only gets into trouble when people ask him direct questions and he answers them honestly. For that, I respect the guy.

Ok, I told y'all it was going to be a high scoring game. And frickin Tavarez..... But that throw to first was a f***ing riot. Hilarious! 12-9. Sox pen is better.

Maybe it's been the great games so far, but they've been pretty even announcing so far. Compared to a lot of other team's announcers, these guys are pretty listenable. And they do tend to talk up the Sox pitching, which is nice.

I disagree. I've found them to be really good over the first 3 games.

Gahhhhhh HR!

Didn't see it. But for the month of July, Gabbard's stats are crazy. Counting the two innings tonight, he's pitched 30 innings, given up just 12 hits and 6 runs.

My gut feeling is that this is the game where Gabbard gets hit hard. It will probably be an 8-7 game but I still like our chances.

i would rather lose that way than any other way. Great game. Great series so far.

Nice. Reverse jinx!

Wow. A two page game thread in the 9th????? Anyway, great game so far. I'm really not looking forward to Paps though. No heart attack saves please. Not against this team. Please?

Well, at least he'll be facing Jake (REC 1-5 | ERA 6.07 | WHIP 1.53) Wesbrook.

Gabbard this year so far (up to this inning). 42.1 IP/ 25hits/ under 1 WHIP/ 2.97 ERA.

Stupid game's blacked out for me. Good game so far though. Geffner's making Gabbard sound like Sandy Kofax.

So much just happened on that one call. Drew got screwed Tito got ejected Four umps missed the call The Sox go from being up 3-0 to just 1-0 But why the f*** was Manny trying to score from first???? grrr

When's the game gonna freakin start already?

Animal Fighting Prohibition Enforcement Act Bill Number: H.R. 137 & S. 261 Bill Status: Signed into Law HSUS Position: Support Bill Sponsor(s): Reps. Elton Gallegly (R-CA), Earl Blumenauer (D-OR) and Roscoe Bartlett (R-MD) Sens. Maria Cantwell (D-WA), John Ensign (R-NV), Arlen Specter (R-PA), and Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) Legislature Status: In Session Last Action: 5/3/07: Signed into law. To upgrade current penalties by authorizing felony-level jail time (up to three years) for violations of the federal animal fighting law, and to prohibit interstate and foreign commerce of cockfighting weapons.

It is a federal crime now. Indictment against Vick describes unfathomable acts Posted: Tuesday July 17, 2007 11:41PM; Updated: Tuesday July 17, 2007 11:41PM http://i.cnn.net/si/images/1.gifhttp://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/football/nfl/07/17/dohrmann.vick/p1_071707_vick_ap.jpg During an April raid of Vick's property in Virginia, authorities seized 66 dogs and equipment commonly used in dog fighting. AP http://i.cnn.net/si/images/1.gifhttp://i.cnn.net/si/images/1.gifRELATED• Falcons 'disturbed' by news of Vick indictment http://i.cnn.net/si/images/1.gif http://i.cnn.net/si/.element/img/1.0/misc/advertisement_down.gif http://i.cnn.net/si/images/1.gifBy George Dohrmann, SI.com The indictment handed down Tuesday against Falcons quarterback Michael Vick and three others describes in detail how they procured a property in Virginia for the purpose of staging dogfights, bought dogs, and then fought them there and in several other states over a six-year period. With at least three cooperating witnesses providing the details, federal authorities compiled a detailed case that traces the birth and rise of Bad Newz Kennels. But not a single line in the 18-page indictment will generate more rage toward Vick and the others charged -- Purnell A. Peace, Quanis L. Phillips and Tony Taylor -- than a sentence near the end. It reads: "In or about April of 2007, Peace, Phillips and Vick executed approximately eight dogs that did not perform well in 'testing' sessions at 1915 Moonlight Road by various methods, including hanging, drowning and slamming at least one dog's body to the ground." In interviews I conducted for an earlier story on the subculture of dogfighting and Vick's involvement, several experts described to me the process of "rolling" dogs. Owners take young dogs, usually puppies, and put them in an enclosed area and see how they react. They prod the dogs and urge them to get angry. If a dog shows aggression toward another dog, that's a positive. If a dog is timid, it is useless. Some fighters give away puppies that don't show the required "gameness." Other owners don't bother with the trouble of finding them a home and simply kill them. Vick and his three associates, according to the indictment, fall in the latter category. Federal investigators allege that Vick is a murderer of dogs who weren't willing to fight for his enjoyment. Even worse, his actions appear more sinister than most professional dogfighters. "If you want to kill a dog, why exert the energy to slam him into the ground or drown him? Why not just shoot him, which is the most common method?" says John Goodwin, dogfighting expert for the Humane Society of the United States. "That is insane. These guys, if they did that, have serious problems." Vick's problems would seem to be plentiful now that he has gone from a person of interest in local and federal investigations to one of four men charged in U.S. District Court in Richmond, Va. with conspiracy to commit interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities and to sponsor a dog in an animal-fighting venture. On the Travel Act portion of the conspiracy charges, he faces a maximum of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. The dogfighting charges carry a possible sentence of one year in prison and $100,000 fine or both. Still, even with the gravity of the crimes alleged, Vick's most serious problem would seem to be one of perception. If one believes the allegations against him, Vick is neither a novice dogfighter nor or a hobbyist who dipped his toe into the sport briefly. The indictment alleges that Vick is a professional dogfighter who"sponsored" more than two dozen dogfights. He is not, as he previously said, someone who merely trusted the wrong people. Rather, he is the face of a bloodsport that the majority of NFL fans probably didn't know existed until the property he owned on Moonlight Road was raided in late April. And, now, he becomes the ultimate test for NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and his new discipline policy. http://i.cnn.net/si/images/1.gif http://i.cnn.net/si/images/1.gif http://i.cnn.net/si/images/1.gif "We expect the Falcons and the NFL to take prompt action," Goodwin says. "The message needs to be sent to other athletes who have been involved or are involved in dogfighting that this can be a career ender." It remains to be seen how the Falcons or the NFL will act, but if they read all 18 pages of the indictment, one can be sure they will no longer give Vick the benefit of the doubt. According to the indictment, Vick, who was also known as "Ookie," and the three others set out to start a kennel of American Pit Bull Terriers for the purpose of fighting them around 2001. Around May of that year, the indictment states that Taylor picked the property on 1915 Moonlight Road near Smithfield, Va., and Vick paid $34,000 for the land. In that same year, Vick and the other three men began acquiring fighting dogs, purchasing animals in Virginia and other states. There were four dogs from an individual in North Carolina, another dog bought in New York, and six dogs and six puppies from an individual in Richmond, Va. According to the indictment, in Sept. 2001, Vick and two others purchased four pit bulls puppies, including a male named "Magic" for $1,000 from an individual who has since testified before the grand jury. In 2002, Vick, accompanied by Peace, purchased four pit bulls from another person in Virginia who the indictment says is now a cooperating witness for the government. The indictment states that in early 2002, the quartet established "Bad Newz Kennels" and even obtained shirts and headbands that "promoted their affiliation" with that organization. They also began renovation of the Moonlight Road property: building a fence to shield the portion where dogfights allegedly occurred and sheds to house the dogs and training equipment. They buried car axles in the woods so they could tie the dogs to them. Around the summer of 2002, the four men began "rolling" dogs, according to the indictment. At that time, Peace, Phillips and Taylor each killed at least one dog that proved to be a poor fighter. Peace shot a dog with a .22 caliber pistol. Phillips also shot a dog. Taylor, the indictment alleges, executed at least two dogs that didn't test well, shooting one and electrocuting at least one other. Federal investigators say the quartet began attending fights as early as 2002, and in that year, Vick is first said to have sponsored a fight, between "Zebro" and "Maniac" at the Moonlight Road property for a purse totaling $2,000. One of the more detailed descriptions of a fight involves a bout in March 2003. A professional fighter, now cooperating with the government, traveled from North Carolina to a location near Blackstone, Va., with his 35-pound female pit bull and a 47-pound male pit bull. The purse was $13,000 a side for the fight involving the female and $10,000 for the fight between the males. According to the indictment, Peace and Vick "represented" Bad Newz Kennels at those fights, which Bad Newz Kennels lost. "Peace, after consulting with Vick about the losing female pit bull's condition, executed the dog by wetting the dog down with water and electrocuting the animal," the indictment reads. The fate of the male dog owned by Bad Newz is not mentioned in the indictment, but it does state that following that fight, "Vick retrieved a book bag containing approximately $23,000 in cash" and gave it to the winning owner, who is listed as "Cooperating Witness #2" in the indictment. There are other allegations like those, other unfathomable acts. At times, the indictment can be difficult to read. Vick allegedly got into dogfighting in 2001 and fought dogs as recently as April. In other words, federal investigators say he's been a dogfighter as long as he's been an NFL quarterback. After reading and rereading the allegations against Vick, it's easy to imagine a future where he is neither.

dude, he looks like an alien. Spooky. http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/mlb/players/20070502/7541.jpg

It does look like Cronin but it's such a weird profile it's hard to tell. http://www.baseballgraphs.com/blog/images/uploads/Cronin_Joe_(Pittsburgh_-_NL).gif