New Red Sox Acquisition Curtis Mead Goes On Injured List With Fractured Wrist

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Just now, FredLynn said:

Alonso has better stats than Yoshida. He would have made a fine DH. He is a 5 time all star. 

He also repeatedly said he wants to play 1b and making him the DH was a dealbreaker..

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Just now, FredLynn said:

Where does Yoshida usually fit into the lineup when he plays nowadays?

When the whole team is healthy, on the f***ing bench.

In fact, by your “logic”, Breslow dropped the ball with Monasterio as the starting SS.  Isn’t that a bigger deal? Yoshida is a better DH than Monasterio is a SS…

[FredLynn]

3 minutes ago, notin said:

When the whole team is healthy, on the f***ing bench.

In fact, by your “logic”, Breslow dropped the ball with Monasterio as the starting SS.  Isn’t that a bigger deal? Yoshida is a better DH than Monasterio is a SS…

I’ll help. When he plays Yoshida most often is the DH. 
If we got rid of him over the winter and signed Alonso to DH we would have a better team. 
That’s really not debatable.

[FredLynn]

10 minutes ago, notin said:

He also repeatedly said he wants to play 1b and making him the DH was a dealbreaker..

Well I guess we’ll never know, will we

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

 

4 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

Well I guess we’ll never know, will we

Alonso is a very good defensive 1st baseman, who made it clear that he didn't want to DH. So, I guess we do know.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Would you include Arias in a trade for the Marlins' SS Otto Lopez, who is leading the NL in BA and doubles?

[SoxPhan]

10 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

Alonso has better stats than Yoshida. He would have made a fine DH. He is a 5 time all star. 

I am not even arguing that. My position is that Bres still had a very solid offseason, despite not overpaying for a guy barely over .800 OPS, which would likely have meant no Suarez and/or Contreras. And also would probably cost us another 10 mill or so to get someone to take Yoshida. And to say that is the difference between us being a division leader vs merely a serious playoff contender, AND that 
Bres should be fired over it is insane work. 

[SoxPhan]

20 minutes ago, notin said:

He also repeatedly said he wants to play 1b and making him the DH was a dealbreaker..

That too.☝️

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

2 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Would you include Arias in a trade for the Marlins' SS Otto Lopez, who is leading the NL in BA and doubles?

He would be a rental 

[FredLynn]

9 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

 

Alonso is a very good defensive 1st baseman, who made it clear that he didn't want to DH. So, I guess we do know.

My guess is that for enough money Alonso would play wherever you told him to play.

Regardless...Schwarber was also a FA. And other players were available by trade. The fact is that we needed help offensively and Breslow failed.

 

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3 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Would you include Arias in a trade for the Marlins' SS Otto Lopez, who is leading the NL in BA and doubles?

No, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that was their first ask.

If the Sox can’t add a SS, is Arias an option this year?

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1 minute ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

He would be a rental 

3+ year rental.  Lopez is under team control until the end of the 2029 season…

[FredLynn]

5 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Would you include Arias in a trade for the Marlins' SS Otto Lopez, who is leading the NL in BA and doubles?

No. Not for a rental.

 

[SoxPhan]

7 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Would you include Arias in a trade for the Marlins' SS Otto Lopez, who is leading the NL in BA and doubles?

Plays a very good D too. That is a tough call. Tempting. 

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

3 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

My guess is that for enough money Alonso would play wherever you told him to play.

Regardless...Schwarber was also a FA. And other players were available by trade. The fact is that we needed help offensively and Breslow failed.

 

Actually, Anthony, Mayer and Story have failed.

[SoxPhan]

6 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

He would be a rental 

Not a ufa til 2030. Arb eligible. 

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Just now, SoxPhan said:

Plays a very good D too. That is a tough call. Tempting. 

He's being paid 860,000 bucks on a one year contract. Talk about bang for the buck.

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2 minutes ago, SoxPhan said:

Not a ufa til 2030. Arb eligible. 

My bad. I just read the part regarding his one year contract. So that makes a trade much more interesting. 

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11 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

My guess is that for enough money Alonso would play wherever you told him to play.

Regardless...Schwarber was also a FA.

 

Ive seen you guess that you knew Matt Barnes’ availability better than John Farrell did.  Not buying it.

And Schwarber said he refused to sign with any team in the Eastern Time Zone.  Big, big deal breaker for him.  Not an option…

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

10 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

No. Not for a rental.

 

My mistake. He wouldn't be a rental.

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8 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Actually, Anthony, Mayer and Story have failed.

Don’t forget IKF, the guy Breslow signed instead of Alonso.  

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1 minute ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

My mistake. He wouldn't be a rental.

More like a lease.  With an option to buy…

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

2 minutes ago, notin said:

Don’t forget IKF, the guy Breslow signed instead of Alonso.  

I doubt Brez was anticipating much offense from IKF.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

3 minutes ago, notin said:

More like a lease.  With an option to buy…

Wouldn't that also apply to Arias?

[SoxPhan]

Lopez would be similar to Mead, in that we would be hoping this breakout season is not an outlier. But if you think you can expect similar production(maybe even more slug at Fenway) as this season, than it kinda makes sense. I think we would all be happy if Arias turned into what Lopez is this season. 

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12 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

Wouldn't that also apply to Arias?

Feel free to use that dad joke on any multiyear player…

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14 minutes ago, SPLENDIDSPLINTER said:

I doubt Brez was anticipating much offense from IKF.

He was counting on him more than Gasper, but that name keeps resurfacing…

[FredLynn]

31 minutes ago, notin said:

Ive seen you guess that you knew Matt Barnes’ availability better than John Farrell did.  Not buying it.

And Schwarber said he refused to sign with any team in the Eastern Time Zone.  Big, big deal breaker for him.  Not an option…

What time zone is Philadelphia in?

[SoxPhan]

36 minutes ago, FredLynn said:

My guess is that for enough money Alonso would play wherever you told him to play.

Regardless...Schwarber was also a FA. And other players were available by trade. The fact is that we needed help offensively and Breslow failed.

 

So how much more money than Baltimore gave him would you have gone to convince him to do the thing he said publicly he did not want to do? He is already earning over 30M per. You want to pay him more to be a DH? And Schwarber was staying in Philly. That was pretty clear. Either way. The Red Sox operate under a budget. As do most teams. You can always just just cheer for the Dodgers if that is not your thing. 

[FredLynn]

Just now, SoxPhan said:

So how much more money than Baltimore gave him would you have gone to convince him to do the thing he said publicly he did not want to do? He is already earning over 30M per. You want to pay him more to be a DH? And Schwarber was staying in Philly. That was pretty clear. Either way. The Red Sox operate under a budget. As do most teams. You can always just just cheer for the Dodgers if that is not your thing. 

Those are just two possible acquisitions Breslow could have obtained. The bottom line is that everyone knew we needed offensive help and he didn't do his job. As a result we are today 25th in runs scored-and this is after winning 15 games in a row and scoring a bunch of runs. We got shut down yesterday.