Final Record

[Bellhorn04]

No, just for the base fans.

 

If we tank in 2023, it'll be better for the future of the team, so why shouldn't we hope for a tank?

[moonslav59]

If we tank in 2023, it'll be better for the future of the team, so why shouldn't we hope for a tank?

 

You laughed at me for just suggesting a mild sell-off, last deadline. Now this?

[Bellhorn04]

You laughed at me for just suggesting a mild sell-off, last deadline. Now this?

 

I didn't laugh, I just thought a team that's 3 out at the deadline with some guys coming back from the IL owes it to the fans to give it a shot.

 

This is a whole other scenario, because right now it feels like the team is trying to get worse instead of better.

 

And now Bloom is talking about moving Story back to short and that his arm won't be a problem because of his range? The answer didn't even make sense.

 

Bloom might redeem himself, but right now I have zero faith in him.

[moonslav59]

I didn't laugh, I just thought a team that's 3 out at the deadline with some guys coming back from the IL owes it to the fans to give it a shot.

 

This is a whole other scenario, because right now it feels like the team is trying to get worse instead of better.

 

And now Bloom is talking about moving Story back to short and that his arm won't be a problem because of his range? The answer didn't even make sense.

 

Bloom might redeem himself, but right now I have zero faith in him.

 

I think Bloom means what Story loses with his arm over Bogey or others, he'll make up for with his range.

 

As for where we are, right now, personally, I feel better now than I did at the deadline. Not by much, but I like the quality and quantity of all the young players on the verge of making an impact. No, this isn't Lynn, Rice and Evans time, but I'm excited. I also think we've improved at more positions than we've declined, but a couple slots are major declines, so I'm not sure the math works out to a net plaus, but I think it's close.I'm also thinking we are not done and might slightly lessen the blow of losing Bogey by adding Andrus for SS, or Segura/Drury to play 2B and Conforto or Gallo for RF, which greatly improves our LF/DH outlook and a SP'er like Kluber to improve the rotation by a pretty good notch.

 

I'm not saying we add those three, but we can afford to, or we can trade for one or two slots and sign just one.

 

At the deadline, we had hopes for Sale and Paxton. Sale's August injury is not long term. We have the same hopes, now, as we did at the deadline. (Yes, others were coming back, too, but we also did not have Jansen and Martin.)

 

I'm thinking, if we add players like or similar to Andrus, Gallo and Kluber, this is not as bad as people think. Losing Bogey sucks, but making up for his loss a little here and a little there should be expected and not just wishful thinking. Bogey and JD drove in about the same amount of runs in 2022 as JD did, himself, in 2018. Maybe the loss isn't as great as it feels, right now.

 

1. L Yoshida LF/DH

2. R Kike CF

3. L Devers 3B

4. R Story SS

5. L Gallo RF

6. L Casas 1B

7. R Andrus SS

8. L Verdugo/ R Refsnyder LF/DH

9. L McGuire/ R Wong

Bench: R Arroyo, Hosmer or Dalbec (Ref/Dugo or Wong/McGuire)

 

SP1. Sale & Paxton combined

SP2. Whitlock

SP3. Kluber

SP4. Bello

SP5. Pivetta (Paxton)

 

SP6/LR Crawford or Winckowski (Paxton/Seabold/Mata/Walter/Murphy)

 

Closer: Jansen

RP2: Houck

RP3: Martin

RP4: Schreiber

RP5: Barnes

RP6: Joely

RP7: Brasier/Taylor(Mata/Kelly/German/Walter, Murphy)

 

No doubt, I thought we could have done better, this winter. I did not foresee how little $80M could get us, in terms of big name FAs, but this team does not look bad

 

 

[moonslav59]

I didn't laugh, I just thought a team that's 3 out at the deadline with some guys coming back from the IL owes it to the fans to give it a shot.

 

This is a whole other scenario, because right now it feels like the team is trying to get worse instead of better.

 

And now Bloom is talking about moving Story back to short and that his arm won't be a problem because of his range? The answer didn't even make sense.

 

Bloom might redeem himself, but right now I have zero faith in him.

 

No, you didn't laugh, but you had way more hope, then, than you do, now.

[Bellhorn04]

I think Bloom means what Story loses with his arm over Bogey or others, he'll make up for with his range.

 

Weren't there concerns about the stress playing short would put on Story's arm as well?

 

The guy adapted well to second. He seemed like a good fit there and the injury concerns were lessened.

 

Now Bloom wants to put him right back at short.

 

I'm scratching my head, man.

[Bellhorn04]

No, you didn't laugh, but you had way more hope, then, than you do, now.

 

That's for sure. I really wasn't expecting this offseason. It's been awful.

 

Losing Bogaerts like we did, still no starting pitchers added while other teams are signing them on a daily basis.

 

I'm kind of in shock.

[moonslav59]

Weren't there concerns about the stress playing short would put on Story's arm as well?

 

The guy adapted well to second. He seemed like a good fit there and the injury concerns were lessened.

 

Now Bloom wants to put him right back at short.

 

I'm scratching my head, man.

 

I'm not agreeing with the move, even if it is temporary.

 

If we can get Andrus for 1 year, I'd overpay him just to keep Story at 2B and Kike in CF and Arroyo on the bench/IL.

[moonslav59]

That's for sure. I really wasn't expecting this offseason. It's been awful.

 

Losing Bogaerts like we did, still no starting pitchers added while other teams are signing them on a daily basis.

 

I'm kind of in shock.

 

I expected losing Bogey. I was briefly excited when we signed Yoshida- thinking, alright we will outbid some teams for decent players, but that's been it.

 

To me, Nate is off our radar, so it's Kluber, Andrus and one from Gallo or Conforto as like hitting the trifecta at the races. It's ain't happening, perhaps even if we were the only team bidding for those 3.

 

I expected more for $80M, but we only spent $40M in a market where that is really like $25-30M.

 

[mvp 78]

Weren't there concerns about the stress playing short would put on Story's arm as well?

 

The guy adapted well to second. He seemed like a good fit there and the injury concerns were lessened.

 

Now Bloom wants to put him right back at short.

 

I'm scratching my head, man.

 

His defense was perfect at 2b. I see no reason to move him. It doesn't make sense to me at all.