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Dana Levangie is killing this team he has no answers for these pitchers he's destroying this staff .

 

Just look at the results. The guy is actually getting paid for this.

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We all need to understand this .The Tampa bay Rays of 2019 are a better team and better coached at every level than the Boston Red Sox .We have a huuuuuuuge problem with player development and More so with pitching .Dana Levangie is a terrible pitching coach and to not recognize this one fact will lead toDaves and Coras demise .

 

Idk about that. They struggle against some elite team. We have made them look all world these two games.

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This performance, like the two before, is why DD didn't give up some good prospects to rent guys or get guys who aren't that good. This team does not have what it takes to advance in the playoffs, if they are lucky enough to get there. Right now, they do not look like or play like a playoff team. To lose continually to the low budget, small market Rays is ridiculous.
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We all need to understand this .The Tampa bay Rays of 2019 are a better team and better coached at every level than the Boston Red Sox .We have a huuuuuuuge problem with player development and More so with pitching .Dana Levangie is a terrible pitching coach and to not recognize this one fact will lead toDaves and Coras demise .

 

I agree about the piss poor pitcher development in the SOX organization, but to blame the pitching coach when the team's starting staff are all veterans is a stretch. The s*** performances of Sale, Porcello, and Price are on them, not the pitching coach. E-rod and Workman have the same pitching coach and they seem to be doing fine.

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IMO Rick literally does not know what he can throw when he takes the mound for the 1st inning any longer, mainly because he cannot follow the approach to pitching he used for that magical 1.5 years and he can't go back to what he was before that 1.5 year run.

 

He simply was not meant to be a power pitcher and did not have the endurance to do what he did for more than a year and a half. Now he is stuck trying to figure out if he has any sort of 4 seam FB at all when he takes the mound. He fails that test virtually every time out and then he has to figure out which of his secondary pitches he can throw good enough to get through however many innings he can go and he does not know at that point which he can or can't trust. Like I said earlier, Rick is literally reinventing himself every single start. We can knock him for his performances but not for a lack of guts. I just can't imagine what that must be like.

 

Seems he is getting worse and worse whatever it is though :( not sure he will be able to ever reinvent himself. Maybe he is better suited for the bullpen. I dunno. But it’s fristr

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I agree about the piss poor pitcher development in the SOX organization, but to blame the pitching coach when the team's starting staff are all veterans is a stretch. The s*** performances of Sale, Porcello, and Price are on them, not the pitching coach. E-rod and Workman have the same pitching coach and they seem to be doing fine.

 

Its LaVangie's asset to coach or its Cora's overall responsibility. Rightly or wrongly one or the other is going to pay for this at season end because outside of two guys, this staff sucks. Which of Cora or LaVangie do you think it will be?

 

Correction, I forgot Erod who is having a banner year for him.

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I agree about the piss poor pitcher development in the SOX organization, but to blame the pitching coach when the team's starting staff are all veterans is a stretch. The s*** performances of Sale, Porcello, and Price are on them, not the pitching coach. E-rod and Workman have the same pitching coach and they seem to be doing fine.

Are you watching any anyyyyyyyyy adjustments ?????? None absolutely GrOuNDS HOG day every freaking night .Thats coaching !!!! Hoooooorible coaches .Either they fire that worthless POS or we are f***ed.Team is demoralized knowing they have to put up 10 damn runs for these shitheads .The players need guidance and adjustments they are allllll except Erod regressing that's COACHEs that's on DANA....When your two Aces are getting shelled alllllll year with no adjustment it's Dana pal .

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I agree about the piss poor pitcher development in the SOX organization, but to blame the pitching coach when the team's starting staff are all veterans is a stretch. The s*** performances of Sale, Porcello, and Price are on them, not the pitching coach. E-rod and Workman have the same pitching coach and they seem to be doing fine.

 

And as far as most of the SOX BP, to make them better would require a pitching magician.

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I agree about the piss poor pitcher development in the SOX organization, but to blame the pitching coach when the team's starting staff are all veterans is a stretch. The s*** performances of Sale, Porcello, and Price are on them, not the pitching coach. E-rod and Workman have the same pitching coach and they seem to be doing fine.

 

That’s fair but where are the adjustments for the pitchers that are struggling? All of these guys are talented and capable of pitching well but they just aren’t. I think that there is enough blame to go around.. LeVangie included.

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Its LaVangie's asset to coach or its Cora's overall responsibility. Rightly or wrongly one or the other is going to pay for this at season end because outside of two guys, this staff sucks. Which of Cora or LaVangie do you think it will be?

 

Correction, I forgot Erod who is having a banner year for him.

The Bullpen Coach who we hired to teach pitching ??? Yeah that's gonna work .f***ing Stupidity

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DD made the right decision to not invest in the the bullpen for this team.

They are not good enough to do damage in October with this rotation due to continuing poor performance not commensurate with the back of their baseball cards for Sale, Price and Porcello.

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Eck all humped up over a solo HR that makes the score 8-3. Sure Eck...you must have gone to the Yes Network school of broadcasting in the off season.
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TB has 12 pitchers on their roster... 2 starters and 10 relievers. How to hell are they in the WC picture? Thay are a true low budget indy film.
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TB has 12 pitchers on their roster... 2 starters and 10 relievers. How to hell are they in the WC picture? Thay are a true low budget indy film.

 

Because they have an incredibly gifted pitching Coach and player Development the best actually .We happen to employ nice guys who kiss our Top paid athletes asssssss

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For all the analytical crap that rules what Tampa does, they have gotten 74 pitches out of Yarborough tonight and Cash has nobody up in his pen until Mookie's hit. This after the Chavis HR.

 

As for their starter/reliever mix, they have two more very legit starters that are on the shelf currently, one of them last year's Cy Young.

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Its LaVangie's asset to coach or its Cora's overall responsibility. Rightly or wrongly one or the other is going to pay for this at season end because outside of two guys, this staff sucks. Which of Cora or LaVangie do you think it will be?

 

Correction, I forgot Erod who is having a banner year for him.

 

LaVangie will likely be fired, while the SOX FO will give Cora about the same amount of rope they gave Farrell.

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For all the analytical crap that rules what Tampa does, they have gotten 74 pitches out of Yarborough tonight and Cash has nobody up in his pen until Mookie's hit. This after the Chavis HR.

 

As for their starter/reliever mix, they have two more very legit starters that are on the shelf currently, one of them last year's Cy Young.

 

Jung what does all that tell you hmmmmmm

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LaVangie will likely be fired, while the SOX FO will give Cora about the same amount of rope they gave Farrell.

 

Splendid I'm angry not at Dana at Dave for not firing and replacing this guy 8 weeks ago .

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