Can the Mets be that stupid?

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Excellent piece by Sherman. Though, I would be more impressed if it were written on the day of the trade, not after the fact.

1. As most teams shun investments in older players, the Mets absorbed the final five years of Cano’s contract for his age 36-40 seasons. They did this despite Cano being suspended 80 games last season for violating MLB’s testing program for PEDs.

 

3. Jeff McNeil’s defense is better at second than the sliding Cano. Yet, now it is McNeil who has to play out of position, mostly in the outfield.

 

One advantage in 2019 should have been a productive right side of the infield of Alonso and McNeil for just more than $1 million total, giving the team a cornerstone and financial flexibility moving forward. To make such a high-risk trade without full awareness of the major league abilities of Alonso and McNeil, at minimum, borders on reckless.

 

4. You know what else is reckless — or arrogant or delusional? Giving up top prospects and taking the large and multi-year contract of an aging/dubious player all to access a closer.

 

7. Ah, the cost. The Mets gave up arguably their two best prospects in Kelenic and Justin Dunn, who as Mariners were invited to the Futures Game. At Double-A, Dunn was pitching well (3.45 ERA, striking out 30.1 percent of hitters).

 

Kelenic, the sixth-overall pick in 2018, dominated Low-A this year and has flashed power in his first 15 High-A games, moving from MLB’s No. 56 prospect before the season to No. 24 now. Any prospect is tradeable. But was the Van Wagenen administration familiar enough with Kelenic and Dunn to move them in such a risky deal?

 

Patience would have been wise because both have more value today than they did in the offseason. Kelenic is now the kind of player who might be able to front any trade for a significant player (without having to take on a Cano-esque burden).

 

8. The adding salt portion of this is Bruce and Swarzak. Both were subsequently traded from the Mariners back into the NL East, where they are helping teams that are superior to the Mets. Bruce had a .918 OPS for the Phillies and delivered a walk-off hit last week against the Mets. Swarzak had a 0.52 ERA in 17 games with the Braves. Both could have, in theory, been helping the Mets, potentially been dumped in other trades or — at worst — had contracts expire after this season (Swarzak) or next (Bruce).

https://nypost.com/2019/06/29/robinson-cano-trade-is-approaching-scary-mets-territory/

 

Of course, the Mets problems go back to ownership. The Wilpons hired an unqualified GM who got the job simply because he is golf buddies with the owners. The Wilpons can't properly distinguish a true baseball person from a charlatan like Van Waganan.

Edited July 5, 2019 by Fan_since_Boggs

[Carpin]

Somehow the Mets keep outplaying themselves with a new high in stupidity, probably one of the worst organization in the ML

 

Let's wait for new a low in the coming trade deadline, they don't fully commit to rebuild or to compete they are a freaking mess.

 

They don't trade players when the value is sky high and end up trading the same players when the value is at his lowest, the only trade they really won is when they got Thor from the jays in exchange of one time wonder R.A. Dickey

[a700hitter]

Somehow the Mets keep outplaying themselves with a new high in stupidity, probably one of the worst organization in the ML

 

Let's wait for new a low in the coming trade deadline, they don't fully commit to rebuild or to compete they are a freaking mess.

 

They don't trade players when the value is sky high and end up trading the same players when the value is at his lowest, the only trade they really won is when they got Thor from the jays in exchange of one time wonder R.A. Dickey

Even the Syndegard trade was not as great as you think. Dickey lived up to his reasonable contract extension with the Jays. His won-loss record wasn't great, but he was a consistent innings eater for them and he earned his check. The big piece in that trade for the Mets wasn't Syndergard. It was d'Arnaud, who has been a complete flop. Syndergard was a pleasant surprise for the mets, and now he is turning out to be a disappointment, putting up late career Dickey-like numbers.

[redsoxrules]

Even the Syndegard trade was not as great as you think. Dickey lived up to his reasonable contract extension with the Jays. His won-loss record wasn't great, but he was a consistent innings eater for them and he earned his check. The big piece in that trade for the Mets wasn't Syndergard. It was d'Arnaud, who has been a complete flop. Syndergard was a pleasant surprise for the mets, and now he is turning out to be a disappointment, putting up late career Dickey-like numbers.

 

Lol what? Dickey was complete garbage. Mets won that trade hands down. Not even close.

[Bellhorn04]

Lol what? Dickey was complete garbage. Mets won that trade hands down. Not even close.

 

It's just silly to say Dickey was complete garbage for the Jays.

[notin]

It's just silly to say Dickey was complete garbage for the Jays.

 

Both Dickey and d’Arnaud had 4 good seasons after the trade.

 

At Dickey’s age, this was a win. At d’Arnaud’s age, this was too few...

[Bellhorn04]

Both Dickey and d’Arnaud had 4 good seasons after the trade.

 

At Dickey’s age, this was a win. At d’Arnaud’s age, this was too few...

 

Speak of the devil (Ray), I think d'Arnaud had the game of his career today.

[a700hitter]

Lol what? Dickey was complete garbage. Mets won that trade hands down. Not even close.

It wasn't as big a win for the Mets as you are making it out to be. The main guy in the trade for the Mets was d'Aranud and he could never stay on the field. He played more than 100 games in only 2 seasons, and when he played, he was very mediocre.

[a700hitter]

It's just silly to say Dickey was complete garbage for the Jays.

I would take what Dickey did in Toronto for our 5th slot in a heartbeat and at the same salary.