09/09 Sox vs Baltimore

[gojohn99]

Red Sox

 

Betts CF

Nava RF

Ortiz DH

Cespedes LF

Napoli 1B

Bogaerts SS

Middlebrooks 3B

Weeks 2B

Vazquez C

Ranaudo P

 

 

 

 

Baltimore

 

Markakis RF

De Aza LF

Jones CF

Cruz DH

Davis 3B

Pearce 1B

Hundley C

Flaherty SS

Schoop 2B

Tillman P

[a700hitter]

Red Sox

 

Betts CF

Nava RF

Ortiz DH

Cespedes LF

Napoli 1B

Bogaerts SS

Middlebrooks 3B

Weeks 2B

Vazquez C

Ranaudo P

 

 

 

 

Baltimore

 

Markakis RF

De Aza LF

Jones CF

Cruz DH

Davis 3B

Pearce 1B

Hundley C

Flaherty SS

Schoop 2B

Tillman P

6 through 9 are very weak.

[Spudboy]

In any case GO SOX!!!!!

[Spudboy]

It looks like Pedroia is done for the season. At least I hope so!

 

His left wrist is inflamed and sore. I KNEW IT!

 

I said long ago that I believed Pedroia was suffering from a wrist injury sustained during the first game of the season. Now, finally, the Sox are making it known that he has been suffering all season from the wrist injury and that he most likely will be done for the season.

 

I'd like to see Mookie at second for the rest of the season and I suggested this several weeks ago when I suggested that Pedroia should be shut down.

 

It seems that Farrell won't put Betts at second at least until Holt is healthy and ready to play center. Or, as I speculate, when Castillo comes up to play center.

 

What a crappy season!!!

[d-money]

It would be nice to see good stuff from these rookie pitchers but they have shown nothing!

[Station 13]

Daniel nava, base running moron.

[a700hitter]

Nava is a terrible base runner.

[a700hitter]

Ranaudo is giving up some bombs.

[BigPapi]

Ranaudo looks like brandon workman 2.0. They look similar and have a similar fastball and curveball. I was hoping he would be better than this. I guess his stuff was good enough to dominate the lower levels but not here. Hopefully he can finish strong. The thing with him is he isn't young as he just turned 25 today.

[a700hitter]

Ranaudo looks like brandon workman 2.0. They look similar and have a similar fastball and curveball. I was hoping he would be better than this. I guess his stuff was good enough to dominate the lower levels but not here. Hopefully he can finish strong. The thing with him is he isn't young as he just turned 25 today.

His stuff is nothing special.

[BigPapi]

His stuff is nothing special.

 

Exactly. It really isn't.

[d-money]

Ranaudo and webster have been bust.I think De la rosa and kelly could improve.

[BigPapi]

Ranaudo and webster have been bust.I think De la rosa and kelly could improve.

 

Its too early to call ranaudo a bust cause this is only his fifth start but his stuff has been very unimpressive. But Webster has been wildly disappointing.

[a700hitter]

Here's Barnes in his debut. Good luck kid.

[a700hitter]

Rivero in for Middlestinks. Hey, a hit in his first AB. Congratulations. That's a week of work for Middlestinks.

[Elktonnick]

Once again Bogaerts makes a dumb decision. That was the stupidest play he has made to date.

[Station 13]

Is base running not taught to these players? Holy s***.

[Elktonnick]

Bogaerts consistently makes rash in game deicsions. He should bend over and try real hard to see if he can pull his head out of his........

[curiousd]

Its too early to call ranaudo a bust cause this is only his fifth start but his stuff has been very unimpressive. But Webster has been wildly disappointing.

 

Well.....lets consider Chris Tilman tonight's O's starter, now considered, I guess, the O's best SP. First year in majors, 2009 with ERA 5.40. Second year in majors, 2010 with ERA 5.87. Third year in majors, 2011 with ERA 5.52.

 

Finally in 2012, 2.93 ERA. Typically it takes a few years for young pitchers to be able to be successful in majors as we all know. I think the reality is that maybe in three years the Sox will be good again.

[a700hitter]

Well.....lets consider Chris Tilman tonight's O's starter, now considered, I guess, the O's best SP. First year in majors, 2009 with ERA 5.40. Second year in majors, 2010 with ERA 5.87. Third year in majors, 2011 with ERA 5.52.

 

Finally in 2012, 2.93 ERA. Typically it takes a few years for young pitchers to be able to be successful in majors as we all know. I think the reality is that maybe in three years the Sox will be good again.

So we should be prepared for 2-3 more years of last place?

[a700hitter]

Based on Barnes short outing, I liked Barnes stuff more than Ranaudo's stuff. He potches down in the zone better than Ranaudo.

[Station 13]

Barnes look good last night for his 3 innings relief work. Spot his pitches to the black, and his changeup is a killer pitch.

[iortiz]

This tem is a joke.

 

We better sign a couple of solid arms like Shields and Lester and forget about the "we won't make long term/serious money commitments to any player" s*** mentality.

[d-money]

It has gotten so bad that nobody cares anymore about posting game threads.

 

Workman is terrible!!! At webster's level!

[Palodios]

Workman is a bullpen pitcher. He did very well in that role. Hopefully this team figures that out before it is too late.

[seabeachfred]

Workman is a bullpen pitcher. He did very well in that role. Hopefully this team figures that out before it is too late.

 

And some wonder why many of us rip Farrell all to shreds for his managerial stupidity this season? If someone work try and research Workman's ERA after he goes through an opposing lineup once I think they would see that it up around 18.00 if not higher. And yet Farrell keeps running him out there as a starting pitcher....WHICH HE MOST CERTAINLY IS NOT. I can't wait for this season to end because I feel like I've been in a tsunami

[Palodios]

And some wonder why many of us rip Farrell all to shreds for his managerial stupidity this season? If someone work try and research Workman's ERA after he goes through an opposing lineup once I think they would see that it up around 18.00 if not higher. And yet Farrell keeps running him out there as a starting pitcher....WHICH HE MOST CERTAINLY IS NOT. I can't wait for this season to end because I feel like I've been in a tsunami

 

Yahoo has stats by number of pitches:

1-15 pitches, hitters have a .761 OPS against him

15-30 pitches, hitters have a .440 OPS against him

30-45 pitches, hitters have a .674 OPS against him

45-60 pitches, hitters have a .579 OPS against him

60-75 pitches, hitters have a .666 OPS against him

75-90 pitches, hitters have a .722 OPS against him

90-105 pitches, hitters have a .863 OPS against him

 

The first 15 are probably skewed because those pitches are guaranteed against the top of the order. He definitely starts struggling around that 75-100 area.

[seabeachfred]

Yahoo has stats by number of pitches:

1-15 pitches, hitters have a .761 OPS against him

15-30 pitches, hitters have a .440 OPS against him

30-45 pitches, hitters have a .674 OPS against him

45-60 pitches, hitters have a .579 OPS against him

60-75 pitches, hitters have a .666 OPS against him

75-90 pitches, hitters have a .722 OPS against him

90-105 pitches, hitters have a .863 OPS against him

 

The first 15 are probably skewed because those pitches are guaranteed against the top of the order. He definitely starts struggling around that 75-100 area.

 

Why don't they try him as an eighth inning pitcher is we can ever take a lead into that inning again---then give him a shot at trying to close a game. We would be utilizing his "talents" a lot more effectively that way instead of running him and his now 1-9 record out there every fifth day only to see his lunch get eaten time and time again. He is NOT a starting pitcher.

[a700hitter]

Workman is a bullpen piece. Period.

 

Bradley still can't hit. But I can't say that he looks any worse than Alan Craig.

[a700hitter]

In less than 2 full games, Rivero has matched half of Middlebrook's HOme Run production over 200 ABs.