St. Louis making a push for Peavy again?

[St. Louis Carter]

Not necessarily so.

 

If the Cards have something the Sox need then I see no reason why a trade for Peavey can not be made. Maybe Craig is someone the Sox want?

He's been a player that ANY team would want if there was a need for a great fielding, sometime amazing hitter that can man 3 infield positions and the corner outfields.

 

(La Russa converted him from the infield to RF for stupid reasons, but Craig was the man that made it possible for them to let Pujols go (and Beltran) and free up MUCH money that has been put to good use in locking down Molina and key free agents)

[Navafan29]

Wow could we actually get Craig? He's awesome from what I've seen from him in the playoffs the last few years. He's clutch too.

[BOSOX11]

Wish the Cards would take Mujica back.

[jad]

I don't get this. How many teams are in the market for an old, 1-7 pitcher? Probably the same number that were salivating for Preizinski (or however you spell that). And the same number who couldn't wait to get a chance at a $14mil/year .140 hitting shortstop earlier this season. Or perhaps the same teams who need a .230 hitting mediocre outfielder who will be willing to take complete credit for all their future success.

[St. Louis Carter]

Wow could we actually get Craig? He's awesome from what I've seen from him in the playoffs the last few years. He's clutch too.

Oh definitley. Aside from top prospect Oscar Tavares who seems to be replacing Craig in left, the Cardinals have 2 top notch outfielders in AAA, one of which was ranked #1 prospect ahead of Trout. No trout of course, but no minnow.

 

In other words, the Cards have Craig and 2 top prospects to dangle for a star pitcher. David Price would throw a wrench in the Peavy plan however, if the Rays decide to keep him for the rest of season due to the fact that they still have a shot at the post-season. Best thing for the Sox scenario is if the Rays stay hot 'till the deadline and keep him. The Cards would be forced to do the Craig/Peavy.

 

According to sources, the Dodgers and Cards are the front runners in the race for Price. Brother, when it gets to choosing between LA and any Midwestern City, the players always choose white wine and Bree!

 

http://jun-cdn.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/superphoto/12431073.jpg

Craig doing what he does best...never letting a ball get past him to the wall in RF

Edited July 10, 2014 by St. Louis Carter

[sk7326]

I don't get this. How many teams are in the market for an old, 1-7 pitcher? Probably the same number that were salivating for Preizinski (or however you spell that). And the same number who couldn't wait to get a chance at a $14mil/year .140 hitting shortstop earlier this season. Or perhaps the same teams who need a .230 hitting mediocre outfielder who will be willing to take complete credit for all their future success.

 

Peavy is a good clubhouse guy who has been durable. His contract is expiring also. He may or may not help in October, but if a team wants to get through the marathon, he still has value at a reasonable price.

[Station 13]

Home Bailey just injured himself in his windup. Another team that could use Pet Peavy.

[Station 13]

Carter, your GM isn't an idiot to take Peavy for Craig. Despite his bad season, he was money last season and still young. There are 25 other team that will give up something better than Peavy to net Craig. For the Red Sox they might deal Peavy + a prospect.

[St. Louis Carter]

Carter, your GM isn't an idiot to take Peavy for Craig. Despite his bad season, he was money last season and still young. There are 25 other team that will give up something better than Peavy to net Craig. For the Red Sox they might deal Peavy + a prospect.

So he's going to ship away our future in LF (Tavares) for a rent-a-arm? No way. The Cards don't operate that way. But it's not as simple as all that. Craig has a no trade contract 'till 2017. It's a matter of him either platooning with LHB Taveras, or going to a franchise like yours and play every day.

 

I say his pride won't allow him to go out like that. San Diego would love to have a native son of Craig''s caliber, but I doubt he will go back there after seeing what playing for a bad team did to his teamate Ryan Ludwick.

 

He has a degree in social welfare so Boston could be a good place for him to end his career. You got poor folks there, doncha?

 

I kid......but Allen definitely has to get out of the NL and soon. Why? Read this:

 

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/allen...ew-left-field/

[Station 13]

No way he is shipping out Tavares. Peavy isn't close to netting Craig back. I'm saying the Red Sox will have to offer more, otherwise many teams can come up better than Peavy to entice your GM.

[St. Louis Carter]

Makes sense. But I don't think our GM made this overture to yours w/o Craig's consent. What would be the point otherwise?

 

But Mozielik has more serious problems: Molina. Our best player was just diagnosed with a ligament tear in his thumb. Out for up to 3 months.... Does AJ have a no trade

[Station 13]

AJ with a no-trade, his GM needs canning.

 

AJ+Peavy for Craig? Solves your team SP/C need. We need an offensive OF.

[St. Louis Carter]

AJ with a no-trade, his GM needs canning.

 

AJ+Peavy for Craig? Solves your team SP/C need. We need an offensive OF.

We can only dream. Or as Olberman will say: "They're not...gonna...do it!"

[sk7326]

AJ with a no-trade, his GM needs canning.

 

AJ+Peavy for Craig? Solves your team SP/C need. We need an offensive OF.

 

The problem is - like Boston - Saint Louis is a good baseball organization.

[Station 13]

yeah, AJ isn't exactly wanted around baseball.

[sk7326]

Allen Craig is a 2014 Tony Phillips sans cocaine. His glove is not great but not awful on the corners, and his bat plays. Or an offensively skewed Ben Zobrist, whatever you like.

[St. Louis Carter]

yeah, AJ isn't exactly wanted around baseball.

I was unaware of that until the local call-in radio shows were alive with the fear that our GM would panic and add him to the Peavy proposition. But Mozielik won't be swayed. Now I read that AJ was DFA'd?!! What gives?

[Spudboy]

I was unaware of that until the local call-in radio shows were alive with the fear that our GM would panic and add him to the Peavy proposition. But Mozielik won't be swayed. Now I read that AJ was DFA'd?!! What gives?

 

The official word from the Sox was that AJ was not performing offensively the way that they had hoped when they signed him to be the bridge year catcher to either Vasquez ( AAA )or Swilhart ( AA ). Two highly regarded Catching prospect in our system.

 

He had been in a massive slump with his BA going down about .030 or so. They wanted to see Vasquez in the bigs ( so they say ). So AJ was released. The Sox are on the hook for the remaining 3.6 mil of his contract for this year.

 

Of course our lovely media in Boston now has reported that AJ was an outcast and did not fit in on this team. Apparently he favored playing with his iPhone to playing with his teammates.

 

Also, his defense was unspectacular. Overall, the idea that he would be a suitable one year replacement for Salty was flawed. AJ never saw a pitch that he would not swing at. Especially first pitches. He did not work counts and get an occasional BB. Not exactly the Sox way of doing things. But the Sox knew this when they signed him.

 

In all, his signing was a waste.

 

Even so, most Sox fans are glad that Vasquez is now up with the big team.

[St. Louis Carter]

Thanks Spudboy. After reading that I don't think he would be a good fit in St. Louis. That IPod s*** would definatley not fly.

[Spudboy]

Thanks Spudboy. After reading that I don't think he would be a good fit in St. Louis. That IPod s*** would definatley not fly.

 

Well AJ came with a reputation of being the worst teammate in baseball. I certainly can not speak to the validity of that title. He will get signed by someone and life will go on!!!

 

Are you a member of redbirds.com? I was on that site briefly in 2010 and got banned simply because I was from Boston and everyone hated the Sox for trouncing the Cards in the World Series. Say hi to all the lovely and mature people on that site for me, will you please?

[St. Louis Carter]

Well AJ came with a reputation of being the worst teammate in baseball. I certainly can not speak to the validity of that title. He will get signed by someone and life will go on!!!

 

Are you a member of redbirds.com? I was on that site briefly in 2010 and got banned simply because I was from Boston and everyone hated the Sox for trouncing the Cards in the World Series. Say hi to all the lovely and mature people on that site for me, will you please?

No. Not familiar. I don't like the big forums with dozens and dozens of posters making rapid fire entries and bitching about everything under the sun.

 

I prefer the "boutique" forums like the link below where you or anybody else (like me) are welcome. We love drop-ins but get very few as the site has a tiny profile on the net. Visitors mostly go to Cards Talk Forum. They banned my ass 5 times for bad mouthing La Russa, so f*** 'em!

http://s7.zetaboards.com/stlouislegends/forum/50602/

[Spudboy]

No. Not familiar. I don't like the big forums with dozens and dozens of posters making rapid fire entries and bitching about everything under the sun.

 

I prefer the "boutique" forums like the link below where you or anybody else (like me) are welcome. We love drop-ins but get very few as the site has a tiny profile on the net. Visitors mostly go to Cards Talk Forum. They banned my ass 5 times for bad mouthing La Russa, so f*** 'em!

http://s7.zetaboards.com/stlouislegends/forum/50602/

 

Lol! Well I want to tell you that I welcome you to Talksox. I don't care that you are a Cards fan. You are a baseball fan and that is what counts! That and being a decent person, that is! And as you know, I love your avatar!

Edited July 11, 2014 by Spudboy

[Spudboy]

http://s7.zetaboards.com/stlouislegends/forum/50602/

 

Are you Carter on that site? I'll take a look.

[St. Louis Carter]

http://s7.zetaboards.com/stlouislegends/forum/50602/

 

Are you Carter on that site? I'll take a look.

I wear no alias!

[St. Louis Carter]

Lol! Well I want to tell you that I welcome you to Talksox. I don't care that you are a Cards fan. You are a baseball fan and that is what counts! That and being a ndecent person, that is! And as you know, I love your avatar!

I'm not sure if the "ndecent" was a typo or what, but any friend of Samartino is a friend O' mine.

[Spudboy]

It was a typo. I suck at typing!

[Wasatch]

I won't be sad to see him go.

[Station 13]

Peavy pitch well again yesterday. He can't buy a win.

[Behindenemylines]

The cards would be stupid to deal Craig for Peavy. When at his best, Craig is a middle of the lineup RBI machine. He got hurt last yr and hasn't been the same. He's 29 and should be entering his prime. My bet is that he puts up big numbers next yr when he is fully healthy

 

Don't see the Cards giving up Craig straight up for Peavy. If Peavy continues to pitch like he has the last few starts the Sox should be able to get something of value from a team that believes they need a back end of the rotation starter for a playoff push.

[St. Louis Carter]

Don't see the Cards giving up Craig straight up for Peavy. If Peavy continues to pitch like he has the last few starts the Sox should be able to get something of value from a team that believes they need a back end of the rotation starter for a playoff push.

I don't think Boston will pull the switch on it now. Craig has lost his job in RF to rookie Oscar Tavares. The secret is out: Craig sucks big time. Can't hit a lick.