7/31 vs Seattle

[jung]

If Drake can continue and even get a bit better, then maybe he is really the guy that gives us more of what Miller was giving us before he went down. Britton seems a bit more like Miller to me than Bres does. Thornton seems more like the LH specialist that Miller was at the start of the season. Thornton keeps getting opportunities to show he can get LH and RH hitters out. So far though if he does get a RH batter out it seems more like luck than anything else.

[SoxFanForsyth]

The bullpen is really starting to look good with the likes of Uehara, Britton, Workman, Thornton, Breslow, Tazawa, and 1 more (RDLR, Morales, Webster?).

 

I would much rather roll the dice with that group than to give up a prospect for a BP arm. Side note - if Uehara ever needed the day off, I would love to see how Workman did in the 9th.

[a700hitter]

Anyway, the Boob must be happy with his decision to not shake up the bullpen. After Tazawa gave up the zinger, the Red Sox bullpen threw 7 shutout frames. Drake Britton especially has been a big boost to the bullpen.

Stop being a hater. Leave Ben alone.

[Palodios]

Stop being a hater. Leave Ben alone.

 

[a700hitter]

I will always be a critic of the FO, but I have not ridiculed Ben in months. People need to get off his back.

[SoxSport]

I'm waiting for Ben to make a good trade on his own that doesn't backfire. Maybe this is the one. He hasn't had much luck in trading. Discount the Dodger deal--some media types give him credit for that, but it's well established that deal was made by Henry and Kasten. The FO, however, picked the prospects the Dodgers gave them, and they did OK there with the two pitchers. Plus they do well with the draft, and have a lot of good prospects. Ben deserves credit there, along with the rest of the FO staff, which has been beefed up some.

 

Ben has a problem in that he replaced several guys above him who went on to promotions to other teams. Some say he was peter principled up, and is Henry's boy. When you are the boss's favorite, you tend to get more credit than you deserve, and so you have a lot to prove to everybody else.

 

So far this year, so good. A lot of it is because the organization is all rowing in the same direction. That wasn't the case last year. They got the manager they wanted all along, and he and the coaches are doing great.

 

Note: Didn't they trade for Carp? That was a good trade for Ben.

[a700hitter]

I'm waiting for Ben to make a good trade on his own that doesn't backfire. Maybe this is the one. He hasn't had much luck in trading. Discount the Dodger deal--some media types give him credit for that, but it's well established that deal was made by Henry and Kasten. The FO, however, picked the prospects the Dodgers gave them, and they did OK there with the two pitchers. Plus they do well with the draft, and have a lot of good prospects. Ben deserves credit there, along with the rest of the FO staff, which has been beefed up some.

 

Ben has a problem in that he replaced several guys above him who went on to promotions to other teams. Some say he was peter principled up, and is Henry's boy. When you are the boss's favorite, you tend to get more credit than you deserve, and so you have a lot to prove to everybody else.

 

So far this year, so good. A lot of it is because the organization is all rowing in the same direction. That wasn't the case last year. They got the manager they wanted all along, and he and the coaches are doing great.

 

Note: Didn't they trade for Carp? That was a good trade for Ben.

And none of the players received in that trade have panned out yet. We still retain only 2 of the 5 players received in the trade.

[Palodios]

I'm waiting for Ben to make a good trade on his own that doesn't backfire. Maybe this is the one. He hasn't had much luck in trading. Discount the Dodger deal--some media types give him credit for that, but it's well established that deal was made by Henry and Kasten. The FO, however, picked the prospects the Dodgers gave them, and they did OK there with the two pitchers. Plus they do well with the draft, and have a lot of good prospects. Ben deserves credit there, along with the rest of the FO staff, which has been beefed up some.

 

Ben has a problem in that he replaced several guys above him who went on to promotions to other teams. Some say he was peter principled up, and is Henry's boy. When you are the boss's favorite, you tend to get more credit than you deserve, and so you have a lot to prove to everybody else.

 

So far this year, so good. A lot of it is because the organization is all rowing in the same direction. That wasn't the case last year. They got the manager they wanted all along, and he and the coaches are doing great.

 

Note: Didn't they trade for Carp? That was a good trade for Ben.

 

Interesting how that works.

 

During Theo's reign, it was the complete opposite. He made very good trades, but very poor free agent signings. So far, it has seemed like the other way around... lots of great signings, but poor trades. Peavy is the guy to turn that trend around.

[iortiz]

Wikipedia -- A baserunner is said to be left on base (abbreviated LOB) or stranded when the half-inning ends and he has not scored or been put out. This includes a batter-runner who has hit into a fielder's choice, causing another runner to be put out as the 3rd out.[5] If, during the final half-inning of a walk-off game, a batter hits a game-winning single with the bases loaded to break the tie, any men left on do not count as LOB in statistics.

 

So no, Boston did not catch up on LOB

 

Got it.

[BornToRun]

Interesting how that works.

 

During Theo's reign, it was the complete opposite. He made very good trades, but very poor free agent signings. So far, it has seemed like the other way around... lots of great signings, but poor trades. Peavy is the guy to turn that trend around.

 

I think Ben should get some credit for the trade he didn't make this year. He stood firm with Amaro about not giving in on Bogaerts and went for Plan B which doesn't look awful even if it doesn't pan out because we didn't give up much in value.

[jung]

Boy so many people (not on the forum I don't think but generally) seem to be selling Peavy short. I really don't get it.

 

OK, so Peavy could get hurt. Did anybody see Moore going down for a couple weeks? Can Moore's injury be worse than a couple weeks? Could be.

 

Even with Detroit sort of killing two birds with one stone in getting coverage for Peralta and getting a SS that probably fits into their future plans if it were not for the PED suspensions, this deal probably does not happen. Then Lee does not happen because Philly was demanding XB plus. So I just don't get it. Doing nothing did not make any sense. Maybe another pen arm would have made some sense. But we get Workman to the pen out of this deal. Seems to me that the FO takes full advantage of the situation and getting the most out of a player that does not fit into their future plans while really doing as much in one deal that they could have done to accommodate the situation they are in. I guess I should qualify that by saying I think they needing pitching more than they needed a bat.

[BornToRun]

Boy so many people (not on the forum I don't think but generally) seem to be selling Peavy short. I really don't get it.

 

OK, so Peavy could get hurt. Did anybody see Moore going down for a couple weeks? Can Moore's injury be worse than a couple weeks? Could be.

 

Even with Detroit sort of killing two birds with one stone in getting coverage for Peralta and getting a SS that probably fits into their future plans if it were not for the PED suspensions, this deal probably does not happen. Then Lee does not happen because Philly was demanding XB plus. So I just don't get it. Doing nothing did not make any sense. Maybe another pen arm would have made some sense. But we get Workman to the pen out of this deal. Seems to me that the FO takes full advantage of the situation and getting the most out of a player that does not fit into their future plans while really doing as much in one deal that they could have done to accommodate the situation they are in. I guess I should qualify that by saying I think they needing pitching more than they needed a bat.

 

I agree 100%.

 

We took advantage of a desperate team and in return got ahold of Jake Peavy who we acquired by selling high on a player who didn't really fit into our future plans and would be lucky if he OPS'd .600 going forward. This isn't a terrible deal if it doesn't work out but Peavy, when he's right, is a top of the rotation arm and we have him for the next 2 months and all of 2014. His health is an issue but he threw 219 innings of great baseball last year and his injury this year was his ribs and not arm trouble. I think Jake Peavy is going to turn into a great asset for us going forward.