2012 ALDS: Yankees vs Orioles

[Divinity]

IBANEZ DOES IT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[a700hitter]

Ibanez again. f***!!!

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

f*** the Orioles and more importantly f*** Ibanez with these ******** late game heroics

[a700hitter]

More reasons to hate the Orioles. *******s!!

[jacksonianmarch]

RAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUL!!!

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Go Tigers, the O's suck

[Youk Of The Nation]

I think I speak for all of the Sox fans on this site when I say "God damn motherf***ing f***ing goddamn stupid f***ing Yankees"

[a700hitter]

The Yankees are paying Ibanez a whopping $1.1 million to hit 19 HRS as a part timer and 3 late inning post season HRs up to this point. The Red Sox paid Ryan Sweeney $1.75 million for 0 HRs.

[jung]

Oh my God...the contemporary ballplayer...can't catch flys in the outfield, can't catch pop ups in the infield, can't throw and for the most part can't hit his way out of a paper bag. Frankly I even think the quality of the pitching is suspect because the quality of everything else is just so s***** to begin with.

 

Maybe there are just to many teams for the number of quality players that there are to go around...but the buffoonery is so widespread I think there is something more fundamental than that going on.

 

Great performance by Ibanez but seriously that was all adrenaline. Sometimes adrenaline is enough but frankly most of these guys sleep walk through these games. Tough to call on adrenaline when you are barely awake in the first place.

 

Here comes a guy to the plate that is sky high and I am going to challenge him with a FB right down main street.

[Divinity]

but seriously that was all adrenaline. Sometimes adrenaline is enough but frankly most of these guys sleep walk through these games. Tough to call on adrenaline when you are barely awake in the first place.

 

 

You should give the guy some credit, Ibanez doing this at 40 years of age and coming off the bench makes it pretty impressive. Its the playoffs, most of these guys have adrenaline flowing.

[a700hitter]

You should give the guy some credit, Ibanez doing this at 40 years of age and coming off the bench makes it pretty impressive. Its the playoffs, most of these guys have adrenaline flowing.

I give him credit. He's 40 and coming up with big hits, and I give the Yankees FO credit for signing a guy like this for little more than $1 million.

[Divinity]

It's pretty ironic their highest paid player has been their worst and their lowest paid player has been their best.

[Station 13]

I give him credit. He's 40 and coming up with big hits, and I give the Yankees FO credit for signing a guy like this for little more than $1 million.

 

He was almost release after spring training. I don't expect them to caught lighting in a bottle again.

 

Bill Hall hit 19HR in limited playing time for us a couple of years back. That doesn't happen often.

[jung]

I did give Ibanez credit...didn't you read the post? My point really has nothing to do with Ibanez per-sey. The quality of the baseball we are seeing sucks. There is drama to some extent....Thrilling to think about who is going to drop the next pop up...have the next thoughtless at bat or make the next thoughtless pitch or stumble over his bubble gum in the outfield.

 

Did you ever think you would see this many errors in as few post season games as we have had so far? Sure we would get a few errors in a division series or post season but the number or scored errors and mental errors is just out of control...really has been all season...all over baseball. Even the quality of the managing and coaching is for s***.

 

Like I said earlier there is no way Joe Torre's pitching coach would not have been on the way to the mound the instant Ibanez was announced for ARoid...no way in hell. Instead the O's pitching coach is planted on the bench where you find most pitching coaches these days.

 

And of course if Aceves was the guy on the mound and the pitching coach did come out, Aceves would likely have chased him back to the dugout. My comments are completely and all about the quality of the play. I don't give a s*** about the quality of the drama...not when it comes to baseball.

[a700hitter]

It's also pretty impressive that Jeter refuses to sit when he is limping like a wounded warhorse. Their aren't too many like him in my memory. No one plays with a limp today. They just don't. He's every bit as tough as Yaz, and that is the highest possible compliment I can pay him. That being said, I hate his guts.

[Divinity]

My comments are completely and all about the quality of the play I don't give a s*** about the quality of the drama...not when it comes to baseball.

 

I'd rather watch a 3-2 game with a few errors than a 8-0 game with none.

[jung]

I just switched over to the A's Tigers game and before the remote even cools off, Coco is blowing another easy fly ball in the outfield and as soon as the A's come up Drew is stumbling into an out on the base paths...the whole thing is just a comedy or mental and physical errors, not much different from the season we have seen.

[jung]

You will surely see more 8-0 games with the quality of baseball we are getting these days than you will see 3-2 games. This is a joke. I will take drama if it is an output from good baseball. I could care less about drama when it is an output from goofy baseball.

[jung]

He's every bit as tough as Yaz, and that is the highest possible compliment I can pay him. That being said, I hate his guts.

 

Agreed.....most of what I admire about baseball now involves one of the older players that has maintained a link to the past. I just don't know what we will be watching when the crew of older guys that are really on their last legs finally give up the ghost.

 

Maybe the money is corrupting the sport to a degree that is just out there or maybe as I suggested earlier maybe there are just to many teams and not enough good players to go around.

[Vredstein]

RAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUL!!!

GODZILLEZ!!!

[jung]

GODZILLEZ!!!

 

Another older ballplayer....what a shock

[a700hitter]

Watching this series has made me take note of some of the roster filler/spare parts on the Yankee team. I look at Ibanez and Ichiro. These 2 guys are veterans who had been really good players in their primes. Ichiro had been great. They are at the end of their careers but they can still be very effective in certain roles. Ibanez can obviously still put a charge into a ball. Ichiro can still field, throw and run with the best of them. He produced a run at the plate where the throw beat him by 10 feet. During the season, Andruw Jones played a nice role- he shredded our lefty pitching. These guys were not expensive. Ryan Sweeney and his 0 HRs makes more than 50% more than Ibanez. For a very small payroll commitment, the Yankees have 3 good experienced professional backup outfielders. Compare that to the garbage we were rolling out there this season-- Darnell MacDonald, Ryan Sweeney, Podsednik, Nava and that bum from the Cubs who got bused for PEDs. I don't think we spent much less for this huge bag of trash than the Yanks spent on 3 solid profeSsionals. As I said last night, our back up OFers couldn't hit the ball that far if they were hitting from second base.

 

I have to wonder if our guys are just playing video games in their offices, because the Yankee FO runs circles around our guys. The Red Sox FO is embarrassingly amateurish compared to the Yankees organization. Unless Baltimore build on this season, the Yanks should just keep running off Division Championships, because with the PawSox masquerading as major leaguers, the AL East is really no longer a strong division, and the MFYs should easily out class the field for years to come unless something drastic happens on Yawkey Way. Great job by the FO. I have to stop watching this series, because these comparisons are constantly running through my head.

[kapsis21]

and the A's won in epic style yohoooo!!

[jacksonianmarch]

Watching this series has made me take note of some of the roster filler/spare parts on the Yankee team. I look at Ibanez and Ichiro. These 2 guys are veterans who had been really good players in their primes. Ichiro had been great. They are at the end of their careers but they can still be very effective in certain roles. Ibanez can obviously still put a charge into a ball. Ichiro can still field, throw and run with the best of them. He produced a run at the plate where the throw beat him by 10 feet. During the season, Andruw Jones played a nice role- he shredded our lefty pitching. These guys were not expensive. Ryan Sweeney and his 0 HRs makes more than 50% more than Ibanez. For a very small payroll commitment, the Yankees have 3 good experienced professional backup outfielders. Compare that to the garbage we were rolling out there this season-- Darnell MacDonald, Ryan Sweeney, Podsednik, Nava and that bum from the Cubs who got bused for PEDs. I don't think we spent much less for this huge bag of trash than the Yanks spent on 3 solid profeSsionals. As I said last night, our back up OFers couldn't hit the ball that far if they were hitting from second base.

 

I have to wonder if our guys are just playing video games in their offices, because the Yankee FO runs circles around our guys. The Red Sox FO is embarrassingly amateurish compared to the Yankees organization. Unless Baltimore build on this season, the Yanks should just keep running off Division Championships, because with the PawSox masquerading as major leaguers, the AL East is really no longer a strong division, and the MFYs should easily out class the field for years to come unless something drastic happens on Yawkey Way. Great job by the FO. I have to stop watching this series, because these comparisons are constantly running through my head.

 

Dont forget about Chavez who hit 16HRs and hit .281 this yr behind ARod.

[a700hitter]

Dont forget about Chavez who hit 16HRs and hit .281 this yr behind ARod.

I have been noticing him since last season. This guy was a great 3rd baseman offensively and defensively. We pick up Aviles and the Yanks got Chavez. The contrast is so stark. How anyone can think our FO has done anything other than an incompetent job just makes me shake my head.

[Bellhorn04]

I have been noticing him since last season. This guy was a great 3rd baseman offensively and defensively. We pick up Aviles and the Yanks got Chavez. The contrast is so stark. How anyone can think our FO has done anything other than an incompetent job just makes me shake my head.

 

I agree with the stark contrast, I agree that the mark of incompetence was all over the 2012 season. I hope that the Sox FO experienced this year like having s*** rubbed in their faces every day and that it made them desperate to do much better.

[jung]

The O's are lucky that they at least get to face Hughes tonight. Although facing Hughes is no guarantee that they will do anything with him.

 

The O's offensive output was only slightly less feeble than the Yankee output during regulation play. While the Yankee batters just seemed their usual feeble selves, the O's simply made horrid plate appearances...stupid. They basically walked up to the plate and put themselves out without even putting up a battle of any sort....pitiful efforts all around.

 

Media efforts post game seem as dimwitted and misguided as player, coach and manager efforts during the game. Who gives a s*** how Showalter felt after the 9th inning and extra inning debacle. "Were you shocked....devastated"? Gimme' a break.

 

How about "in retrospect Buck, given the change from a struggling RH hitter, ARoid to a LH hitter that also happened to be the hottest pinch hitter in baseball for the last month, do you think it would have made sense to have the pitching coach visit the mound and make sure Johnson and Weiter were on the same page and knew how they needed to attack Ibanez? Seemed to me that was the last place Johnson wanted to leave that pitch to Ibanez."

 

or how about "after Ibanez had hit the 9th inning homer and was obviously jacked to the moon, do you think it would have made sense next time he arrived at the plate to make sure that the first pitch he saw was not a challenge FB right down main street?"

 

While this post season does not lack for drama, well played post seasons do not lack for drama either. This one has so far been a joke both in the numbers of mental and physical errors by players and tactical errors by coaches and managers all across the various division series. In truth the number of mental and physical errors and sloppy, indifferent plays by players far outstrips the number of tactical errors by managers and coaches.

 

Lets see how many players trip over their shoelaces or their bubblegum today. I have to say the division series play is to some extent consistent with the regular season play we were treated to this year. Worst year for silly, stupid, indifferent play across MLB that I can remember in a long long time.

[a700hitter]

I agree with the stark contrast, I agree that the mark of incompetence was all over the 2012 season. I hope that the Sox FO experienced this year like having s*** rubbed in their faces every day and that it made them desperate to do much better.

It annoys me when people give excuses to the FO regarding Yankee money. Sure they have more money but look at some of their value acquisitions for their bench.

 

Eric Chavez $900 k

Ibanez $1.1 m

Ichiro 2.0 m

A. Jones $2.0 m

 

Total $ 6.0 m

 

Look at our bench

 

Sweeney $1.75 m

DMac 506 k

Byrd 400 k

Nava 480 k

Pods 480 k

Lillibridge 500 k

Punto 1.5 m

 

Total $ 5.6 m

 

Look at the difference in production for $500 k more. We need to stop whining about Yankee money. Our FO is not in their league.

[jung]

I was a little impressed with Showaster during the regular season....he has not impressed me at all in this series. Gives Weiters the green light 3-0 against Hughes????? Not to bright.

[redsoxrules]

I was a little impressed with Showaster during the regular season....he has not impressed me at all in this series. Gives Weiters the green light 3-0 against Hughes????? Not to bright.

 

If I heard right , Wieters was 7 for 8 with 2HR with 3-0 count this year .

So IMO it was a good move