6/17 @ Chicago Cubs

[SoxFanForsyth]

Who gives a flying f*** about Adam Dunn? Who said Crawford was gonna suck? I am just pointing out that it is retarded to think that he will be our saviour if and when he ever gets out on the field to start earning any of that ridiculous pay.

 

You seem to think that players can't rebound, that career norms are useless stats. So...I guess you wouldn't care about Adam Dunn because he disproves your horrendous, horrendous arguments.

 

You're illogical. You're irrational. And you're overly pessimistic.

 

You're just not very smart when it comes to baseball.

[FredLynn]

I am one of the most critical members here. People call me pessimistic, Im not....Im objective.

 

The team sucks, but to say Crawford is a bust or that he sucks when his whole body of work says last year was an aberration is not being objective.

 

Realistic. There are many of us here.

[Brennan]

I am one of the most critical members here. People call me pessimistic, Im not....Im objective.

 

The team sucks, but to say Crawford is a bust or that he sucks when his whole body of work says last year was an aberration is not being objective.

 

 

 

Never said he was a bust, just pointing out that for a guy who hasn't done anything since 2010, people here are expecting an awful lot of him if they are pinning all their hopes of October baseball on him.

[SCM33]

Guessing that's it for Morales since he's coming up 3rd in the inning. If so' date=' good game. That's all we could have asked from him IMO. 4 innings and what should have been 1 earned run.[/quote']

 

BV will let him earn the win. Hes going at least 5.

[jung]

Morales has done a heck of a job here. Didn't panic at all....even after giving up the hit early. Did not look lost out there. Does not mean he is a starter but funny when you think about how lost Bard has looked out there on occasion.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I'd want to see his speed before making those comments. If Crawford has slowed down at all' date=' then he's not getting back to his hay day numbers[/quote']

 

Heard he's running well. Had Brian Roberts father in camp this ST to help him with his first step. That's where he was getting beat on SB. Was standing up instead of turning and running, from what I understand. Can't remember where I heard it - possibly on the Red Sox spring training show on NESN.

[Cocos Disciples]

BV will let him earn the win. Hes going at least 5.

 

I guess you're right. Hope it works out. I'd have pulled him, as it's the longest he's gone in years, they have the entire bullpen with the off-day tomorrow, and his spot is up in the order which is a free out. I give no value to the individual pitcher's win.

 

EDIT: "Free out," said Coco's Disciples, right before Franklin Morales knocks a hit up the middle. Okay. I'm gonna go now.

[Brennan]

You seem to think that players can't rebound, that career norms are useless stats. So...I guess you wouldn't care about Adam Dunn because he disproves your horrendous, horrendous arguments.

 

You're illogical. You're irrational. And you're overly pessimistic.

 

You're just not very smart when it comes to baseball.

 

And you are just a clown that likes to argue for the sake of arguing, you like to twist s*** around to suit your argument as well. Personally, aside from looking up stats, I don't think you know very much about baseball.

[SCM33]

Realistic. There are many of us here.

 

No....you guys never see the good in anything.

 

Even tonight, Morales looks good.....but you keep pointing out that they are facing Maholm and the Cubs.....

 

He looks good regardless and its something to be pumped up about.

 

Instead you guys would rather talk about Carl Crawford and Dustin Pedroia dropping a ball that should have been caught by the inept RF.

[a700hitter]

Nice Knock by Morales!!

[SoxFanForsyth]

Never said he was a bust' date=' just pointing out that for a guy who hasn't done anything since 2010, people here are expecting an awful lot of him if they are pinning all their hopes of October baseball on him.[/quote']

 

Who is pinning all hopes on Crawford??

 

Jacoby Ellsbury. Cody Ross. Andrew Bailey. Carl Crawford.

 

Pedroia is getting hot. Gonzalez is clearly pressing and there is reason to believe that he'll settle down and not press as much if he doesn't feel like he has to carry the club.

[SCM33]

I guess you're right. Hope it works out. I'd have pulled him, as it's the longest he's gone in years, they have the entire bullpen with the off-day tomorrow, and his spot is up in the order which is a free out. I give no value to the individual pitcher's win.

 

EDIT: "Free out," said Coco's Disciples, right before Franklin Morales knocks a hit up the middle. Okay. I'm gonna go now.

 

Hahaha.

[SoxFanForsyth]

And you are just a clown that likes to argue for the sake of arguing' date=' you like to twist s*** around to suit your argument as well. Personally, aside from looking up stats, I don't think you know very much about baseball.[/quote']

 

Let me get this straight:

 

I think last year was an aberration and that Crawford is much more likely to return to his career norms than to repeat an aberration year.

 

You think last year is a trend and think that Crawford is more likely to resemble his last 590 PA than his 4,000 before that.

 

And I don't know a lot about baseball.

 

[SCM33]

Hes got a damn good swing!

[Brennan]

No....you guys never see the good in anything.

 

Even tonight, Morales looks good.....but you keep pointing out that they are facing Maholm and the Cubs.....

 

He looks good regardless and its something to be pumped up about.

 

Instead you guys would rather talk about Carl Crawford and Dustin Pedroia dropping a ball that should have been caught by the inept RF.

 

You are right. We are just below .500 because of bad luck, we are the best team in baseball no if's ands or butts about it.

 

Our bad, we should take into account the Pythagoran wins formula and blame lady luck.

[jung]

Yea there is no reason to not give Morales the chance to go out there and get through this inning. He has earned the chance. Sox will not want him to get into a serious jam cause they need this game but he deserves the chance to get a win.

[Brennan]

Let me get this straight:

 

I think last year was an aberration and that Crawford is much more likely to return to his career norms than to repeat an aberration year.

 

You think last year is a trend and think that Crawford is more likely to resemble his last 590 PA than his 4,000 before that.

 

And I don't know a lot about baseball.

 

 

Let me get this straight:

 

You actually think I give a s*** what you have to say and want to continue this conversation with you?

 

[FredLynn]

No....you guys never see the good in anything.

 

Even tonight, Morales looks good.....but you keep pointing out that they are facing Maholm and the Cubs.....

 

He looks good regardless and its something to be pumped up about.

 

Instead you guys would rather talk about Carl Crawford and Dustin Pedroia dropping a ball that should have been caught by the inept RF.

 

Nice work by Morales. Maybe he has a future as a SP. Looks a hell of a lot better than Bard at it.

 

Strikes out the side. One more inning out of him is all we can expect. Great job so far. Now lets score some runs. Maholm is a crap pitcher.

 

Guess you were wrong about that. Apology accepted. Learn to read.

[SCM33]

You are right. We are just below .500 because of bad luck, we are the best team in baseball no if's ands or butts about it.

 

Our bad, we should take into account the Pythagoran wins formula and blame lady luck.

 

I just said they suck......maybe you missed that.

[mvp 78]

Well, an injured Pods would give Kalish more PT.

[SoxFanForsyth]

You are right. We are just below .500 because of bad luck, we are the best team in baseball no if's ands or butts about it.

 

Our bad, we should take into account the Pythagoran wins formula and blame lady luck.

 

The Sox have one of the best run differentials in the American League (5th best) without some of their best players.

 

These things even themselves out over the course of a 162 game season.

[ellsburyforMVP]

Let me get this straight:

 

I think last year was an aberration and that Crawford is much more likely to return to his career norms than to repeat an aberration year.

 

You think last year is a trend and think that Crawford is more likely to resemble his last 590 PA than his 4,000 before that.

 

And I don't know a lot about baseball.

 

 

Especially seeing that his first 4,000 were in the very same AL east.... Idiotic to think that a ballpark change would change him from a "stud" to a "dud" in his prime

[Station 13]

Albers? GTFO

[SoxFanForsyth]

Well' date=' an injured Pods would give Kalish more PT.[/quote']

 

I don't think Kalish was losing any playing time. At least I would hope not.

[FredLynn]

Yea there is no reason to not give Morales the chance to go out there and get through this inning. He has earned the chance. Sox will not want him to get into a serious jam cause they need this game but he deserves the chance to get a win.

 

I am more concerned with winning this game than Morales getting the win. If he starts to lose it, we gotta get him out of there. This is a big game.

[Brennan]

I am more concerned with winning this game than Morales getting the win. If he starts to lose it' date=' we gotta get him out of there. This is a big game.[/quote']

 

 

 

It's only June Pumps.

 

 

[FredLynn]

It's only June Pumps.

 

 

 

Until its July.

[SCM33]

Now lets score some runs. Maholm is a crap pitcher.

 

It was the OF's ball. I agree. But once Pedroia gets his glove on it (and he was there in plenty of time to make the play) then he has to complete the play.

Pedroia talks too much. I don't hate him. I think he talks too much.

 

Sloppy sloppy baseball. Mighty Mouth blows it.

 

Maybe so' date=' but Pedroia got his glove on it. He had that play made but blew it. He has to make that play if McDime doesn't call him off.[/quote']

 

I do my job; he should be able to do his. Sloppy baseball. No free pass there. Sorry.

 

And that Yousiless failed to even make contact again?

 

Yousiless keeps showcasing his talent. What is he now? 0 for 20. Time to release him if we can't get anything for him.

 

Its VERY close to being over IMO. You are also entitled to your own opinion. If we were behind one team by 10 games, thats a large deficit to make up, but remotely possible with so many games left. Lose tonite and we will be behind FIVE TEAMS for the WC, including SIX games behind the leaders. Not mathmatically impossible, but so difficult to achieve with our kind of team that we really ought to begin plotting for next year as a strategy rather than trying to force something that is not going to happen.

Just keeping it real. Didn't say I like it.

 

1. There is no objective evidence that this team is anything but mediocre.

2. To get to 93 wins we would have to play .629 baseball for the rest of the way. That translates to nearly a 102 win season.

3. Our pitching remains 12th in the AL out of the 14 teams. Thats not a formula for a 102 win season or .629 baseball for any sustained length of time.

4. We have to climb over six teams to get first place and four teams to reach the WC (second WC). Some of those teams are probably better than we are: the Rays and the Angels come to mind.

5. Although we have many games left within the ALE, all of those teams right now are better than we are and should be expected to win the majority of the games against us since we are a last place team. You are what your record says you are (Parcells).

 

Guess you were wrong about that. Apology accepted. Learn to read.

 

 

Oh, I can read. I can quote as well. Reading through that makes me think you are suicidal.

[Station 13]

Who is this out there?

[FredLynn]

Nine K's in 4.2 innings. Wow. Not totally unexpected, but certainly welcome. This guy deserves a chance to become a SP next year.