Shaunnessey strikes again

[ibot2much]

Buried in the middle of his otherwise innocuous column this morning he mentions Gonzo very quickly--calls him "a sour dude, almost Nomar-esque" "nobody likes a know-it-all"

 

There was talk last year that his strong religious leanings may have been part of the problem.....of course everybody got hit with something or another....but I wonder what G. did to piss off S.

[Palodios]

Uhoh, was A-gon the snitch?

[VA Sox Fan]

His last name is spelled Shaughnessy and he is a pompous ass.

[ORS]

His last name is spelled Shaughnessy and he is a pompous ass.

His douchebaggery makes the Jersey shore look like a farm town in North Dakota.

[VA Sox Fan]

His douchebaggery makes the Jersey shore look like a farm town in North Dakota.

 

 

I guess Gonzo will be his new target since Schilling and Manny aren't around anymore.

[YAZMAN]

http://www.funnypictures.net.au/userimages/user1680_1156825772.jpg

[a700hitter]

Today's press corps in Boston are practically cheerleaders compared to the way they used to be.

[Emmz]

The Red Sox also used to never win. The Sox are currently a major league powerhouse, and Shaughnessy is still finding ways to be a gaping ass wound.

[a700hitter]

The Red Sox also used to never win. The Sox are currently a major league powerhouse' date=' and Shaughnessy is still finding ways to be a gaping ass wound.[/quote']From 1967 on, the Red Sox have been a successful and competitive franchise. They had powerhouse lineups and stars for as long as I can remember. If there had been wild cards, they might have had a few championships long before 2004. Before 1995, you had to finish first to make the playoffs. I have seen that 7 times in my life, but only 1 time in the last 10 years.

[Emmz]

They didn't win a championship in a city that has high sports standards. Thats the point. A lot of big sports cities, successful or not, seem to feel entitled to a championship every year.

[VA Sox Fan]

The Red Sox also used to never win. The Sox are currently a major league powerhouse' date=' and Shaughnessy is still finding ways to be a gaping ass wound.[/quote']

 

Yeah, seriously. At least Edes is gone. His one mission in life was to crap all over Manny.

[Spitball]

They read him so we don't have to:

 

http://danshaughnessy.blogspot.com/

[VA Sox Fan]

They read him so we don't have to:

 

http://danshaughnessy.blogspot.com/

 

Great site Spitball! Thanks for sharing. I might have to add it to My Favorites.

[a700hitter]

They didn't win a championship in a city that has high sports standards. Thats the point. A lot of big sports cities' date=' successful or not, seem to feel entitled to a championship every year.[/quote']The Red Sox have been the premier sports franchise in Boston since 1967. The Celtics for all their success have always been second banana. Prior to 2002, the Patriots had not set any standards except for failure. The Bruins had a few great teams in the late 60's and early 70's. That lasted for as long as Bobby Orr's knees which wasn't very long. They won a single cup.

 

Let's take this back to the beginning. Today's Boston media are cheerleaders compared to the old days and it has nothing to do with the Red Sox having better teams. The 1975-1979 teams were as good as any stretch of Sox teams that I can remember. They were chock full of stars and couple of Hall of Famers. Yet the press brutalized them. They brutalized Ted Williams, the greatest hitter in franchise history. The reason why the are kinder and gentler today is that there is more money in the sport today by an exponential degree. As a consequence, there is more coverage and tremendous competition among a greater variety of media. The team through NESN controls a lot of the media coverage and controls access to information. The Press is kinder and gentler, because they have to be to compete. I give credit to Shaughnessey for being secure enough in his position to remain a prick. He is a dying breed. Old guys like me have an historical perspective for these matters that people your age don't have. That's not a put down. Some day you too will be old, and some young snot nose will be telling you that you are wrong about the times that you lived through.

[Palodios]

The Red Sox have been the premier sports franchise in Boston since 1967. The Celtics for all their success have always been second banana. Prior to 2002' date=' the Patriots had not set any standards except for failure. The Bruins had a few great teams in the late 60's and early 70's. That lasted for as long as Bobby Orr's knees which wasn't very long. [b']They won a single cup.[/b]

 

Two, actually. More than the Red Sox had in 60 years at the time.

 

But I get what you're saying. I want Boston to get back to being a baseball town as well, but the bandwagon does what it does.

[Emmz]

Some young snot nose who knows what happened in baseball from '67 to now? Yeah, I also know they didn't win a championship. There's only so much about that time period you can successfully condescend your having lived through, because there's a little thing called preserved history. It includes newspaper articles, common opinions and statistics.

 

The Red Sox weren't premier s*** until they won. Premier teams win championships, not finish 2nd or worse. You can insert your subjectivity all you want about how much harder the writers were on the Sox back then, but that has to do with championships. Writers and fans don't ease up because you won 95 games but couldn't quite get the job done, because thats human behavior. Everyone's reaction after the collapse last year, in 2003, and other mon-championship years, is evidence of that.

 

Some day an old grandpa will try to tell you how much smarter they are than you. Oh wait.

[Emmz]

Two, actually. More than the Red Sox had in 60 years at the time.

 

But I get what you're saying. I want Boston to get back to being a baseball town as well, but the bandwagon does what it does.

 

Boston isn't a baseball town?

[seabeachfred]

The Red Sox have been the premier sports franchise in Boston since 1967. The Celtics for all their success have always been second banana. Prior to 2002, the Patriots had not set any standards except for failure. The Bruins had a few great teams in the late 60's and early 70's. That lasted for as long as Bobby Orr's knees which wasn't very long. They won a single cup.

 

Let's take this back to the beginning. Today's Boston media are cheerleaders compared to the old days and it has nothing to do with the Red Sox having better teams. The 1975-1979 teams were as good as any stretch of Sox teams that I can remember. They were chock full of stars and couple of Hall of Famers. Yet the press brutalized them. They brutalized Ted Williams, the greatest hitter in franchise history. The reason why the are kinder and gentler today is that there is more money in the sport today by an exponential degree. As a consequence, there is more coverage and tremendous competition among a greater variety of media. The team through NESN controls a lot of the media coverage and controls access to information. The Press is kinder and gentler, because they have to be to compete. I give credit to Shaughnessey for being secure enough in his position to remain a prick. He is a dying breed. Old guys like me have an historical perspective for these matters that people your age don't have. That's not a put down. Some day you too will be old, and some young snot nose will be telling you that you are wrong about the times that you lived through.

 

Sometimes the person you read doesn't seem like the person you meet. I wish I could remember the name of that restaurant in San Francisco where I met Shaunessy in 2010. My waiter was a diehard Red Sox fan and told me Dan was at the bar and, so what the hell, I walked up to him and we had a nice conversation. He was open, friendly and funny, nothing like the guy I sometimes read on this board or on Boston Dirt Dogs or in the Globe. That guy seems like a real prick much of the time; the guy I talked to didn't seem that way at all. Maybe he takes his job more seriously than he should.

[ibot2much]

The Red Sox have been the premier sports franchise in Boston since 1967. The Celtics for all their success have always been second banana. Prior to 2002, the Patriots had not set any standards except for failure. The Bruins had a few great teams in the late 60's and early 70's. That lasted for as long as Bobby Orr's knees which wasn't very long. They won a single cup.

 

Let's take this back to the beginning. Today's Boston media are cheerleaders compared to the old days and it has nothing to do with the Red Sox having better teams. The 1975-1979 teams were as good as any stretch of Sox teams that I can remember. They were chock full of stars and couple of Hall of Famers. Yet the press brutalized them. They brutalized Ted Williams, the greatest hitter in franchise history. The reason why the are kinder and gentler today is that there is more money in the sport today by an exponential degree. As a consequence, there is more coverage and tremendous competition among a greater variety of media. The team through NESN controls a lot of the media coverage and controls access to information. The Press is kinder and gentler, because they have to be to compete. I give credit to Shaughnessey for being secure enough in his position to remain a prick. He is a dying breed. Old guys like me have an historical perspective for these matters that people your age don't have. That's not a put down. Some day you too will be old, and some young snot nose will be telling you that you are wrong about the times that you lived through.

 

You made some good points

[Palodios]

Boston isn't a baseball town?

 

Currently, we're a football and hockey town. If you walk around town, there is more yellow/blue than red these days.

[Emmz]

Currently' date=' we're a football and hockey town. If you walk around town, there is more yellow/blue than red these days.[/quote']

 

There's more Twins stuff than anything here, but everyone knows that Minnesota's team is the Vikings, and this is a football state and always has been.

 

Boston is known for the Red Sox, once the Patriots slip from a top team, there's no loyalty like there is with the other three teams.

[a700hitter]

Some young snot nose who knows what happened in baseball from '67 to now? Yeah, I also know they didn't win a championship. There's only so much about that time period you can successfully condescend your having lived through, because there's a little thing called preserved history. It includes newspaper articles, common opinions and statistics.

 

The Red Sox weren't premier s*** until they won. Premier teams win championships, not finish 2nd or worse. You can insert your subjectivity all you want about how much harder the writers were on the Sox back then, but that has to do with championships. Writers and fans don't ease up because you won 95 games but couldn't quite get the job done, because thats human behavior. Everyone's reaction after the collapse last year, in 2003, and other mon-championship years, is evidence of that.

 

Some day an old grandpa will try to tell you how much smarter they are than you. Oh wait.

All of New England fell in love with the Impossible Dream team of 1967 even though they fell short of a championship. Those Red Sox fans didn't feel like their team was a loser. The franchise was reborn and they had a new hero and new Super Star who was beloved across New England. Yet the press trashed him and the Sox every chance they got, and it had nothing to do with losing to the Cards. It was almost always exclusively petty ******** bullying by the print media. Real tabloid crap.

 

The Red Sox have always been the focus of attention of the Boston Sports fans. The Patriots, with all due respect to their great teams, are Johnny Come Lately's. In the 1970's the town was a wild baseball town. The rivalry between the Sox and the Yanks was at a fever pitch. Not only did the fans of the teams hate each others teams, but the players genuinely hated each other. You are losing the forest for the trees here. I am not arguing which Sox era teams were better. The point we were arguing is why the press is kinder and gentler today. It has nothing to do with championships or good teams. You kids think everything that came before you sucked. That's just not true. The Sox were tremendously popular and competitive long before this ownership. Yes, they were even a wealthy and premier baseball franchise, although not as high in the rankings as today, but still a premier franchise. The reason why they are kinder and gentler today is the fierce competition for big $ that permeates the sport. The print press used to have a monopoly over the sports coverage. They no longer have that. The older guys here know what I am talking about.

 

Finally, I would never tell you that I am smarter than you are. I am just telling you about the times I have lived through. Living through some things gives one a better understanding than reading about it in the paper. You are in your 20's and have never been to Boston. Experience is valuable. It doesn't equate to higher intelligence, and I never made any claim of being smarter than you.

[a700hitter]

Sometimes the person you read doesn't seem like the person you meet. I wish I could remember the name of that restaurant in San Francisco where I met Shaunessy in 2010. My waiter was a diehard Red Sox fan and told me Dan was at the bar and' date=' so what the hell, I walked up to him and we had a nice conversation. He was open, friendly and funny, nothing like the guy I sometimes read on this board or on Boston Dirt Dogs or in the Globe. That guy seems like a real prick much of the time; the guy I talked to didn't seem that way at all. Maybe he takes his job more seriously than he should.[/quote']I think it is good to have at least one independent-minded media person covering a team like the Sox. It keeps certain people on their toes.

[VA Sox Fan]

I think it is good to have at least one independent-minded media person covering a team like the Sox. It keeps certain people on their toes.

 

Too bad the Globe doesn't employ anyone like that.

[a700hitter]

Too bad the Globe doesn't employ anyone like that.

I don't like Shaughnessy at all, but if he is a puppet, whose puppet is he?

[VA Sox Fan]

I don't like Shaughnessy at all' date=' but if he is a puppet, whose puppet is he?[/quote']

 

I didn't say he was a anyone's puppet, if he is, I don't whose. He's a negative, predictable, condescending, pessimistic, pompous ass. If you consider that as independent thinking that is your right. I do not. Gonzalez is his new "target" until he decides on some other player. It's cool that Gonzo doesn't seem to give a s*** though.

[a700hitter]

I didn't say he was a anyone's puppet' date=' if he is, I don't whose. He's a negative, predictable, condescending, pessimistic, pompous ass. If you consider that as independent thinking that is your right. I do not. Gonzalez is his new "target" until he decides on some other player. It's cool that Gonzo doesn't seem to give a s*** though.[/quote']Well, if it is not independent thinking, who is doing his thinking for him? Negative thinking people can be independent-minded.:dunno:

[VA Sox Fan]

Well' date=' if it is not independent thinking, who is doing his thinking for him? Negative thinking people can be independent-minded.:dunno:[/quote']

 

Sure they can be. He just has an agenda and it's always negative and I don't like him. Independent thinking can also include the occasional mention of positive things. He is incapable. Independent thinking, yes. Fair and balanced, no.

[a700hitter]

Sure they can be. He just has an agenda and it's always negative and I don't like him. Independent thinking can also include the occasional mention of positive things. He is incapable. Independent thinking' date=' yes. Fair and balanced, no.[/quote']I have never accused him of being fair, but he may be the only media person, print or otherwise, who doesn't kowtow to the Red Sox organization.

 

Edit: Just because I disagree with someone doesn't mean they don't have something to offer me as a reader.

[SCM33]

CHB sucks. He used to ride Jim Rice pretty hard. In fact, I am pretty sure CHB pretty much single handily ruined Jim Rices reputation around these parts with the articles he used to write.