Tigers signs Fielder

[Meh]

The Yankees' date=' the team you root for, are a "Super-power". That's the definition of a fan's back-patting.[/quote']

 

I'm just simply stating facts.

[Meh]

Think about 2013 when they have Cabrera' date=' Fielder AND V-Mart in the same lineup. Wow.[/quote']

 

Think about where they will all play. Either one will be gone or the defense will be historically bad.

[User Name]

I'm just simply stating facts.

 

Then i'm assuming you don't quite have a grasp on what a "fact" is.

[Meh]

Then i'm assuming you don't quite have a grasp on what a "fact" is.

 

So you don't think the Yankees are one of the best teams in the AL right now? What would be your ranking of the top 4?

[User Name]

So you don't think the Yankees are one of the best teams in the AL right now? What would be your ranking of the top 4?

 

The way the AL is set up right now, no team is good enough to call itself a "super power" because the top is so crowded. "Super power" entails being far and away superior to the rest of the pack.

 

As of right now, if i had to rank the top four teams in the AL i would say:

 

1) Rangers

 

2) Tigers

 

3) Yankees

 

4) Rays

 

I would place the Red Sox 5th and flip-flop them with the Rays if they signed a pitcher.

[redsoxbeatz]

Why does Prince Fielder stay so fat? He is being over paid by at least $60mil and I'm sure he won't trim a pound.

 

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=HohnHfMIqq4

 

At least the AL is going to be a wild fight.

[Meh]

Well I look at the Yankees, Tigers, Rangers... and see teams with no real holes in their teams. Their bullpens are solid to great. Their lineups are now jammed packed and their rotations are some of the best in the AL. Obviously every team can improve but these three are pretty well set. Where as the Rays have some holes in their lineup and bullpen. The Sox with their lineup and rotation and the Angels with their lineup and bullpen.

[User Name]

The absolutely amazing thing is that he's a VEGETARIAN.@redsoxbeatz

[User Name]

Well I look at the Yankees' date=' Tigers, Rangers... and see teams with no real holes in their teams. Their bullpens are solid to great. Their lineups are now jammed packed and their rotations are some of the best in the AL. Obviously every team can improve but these three are pretty well set. Where as the Rays have some holes in their lineup and bullpen. The Sox with their lineup and rotation and the Angels with their lineup and bullpen.[/quote']

 

The Yankees and Tigers have rotation questions, the Yankees also have A-Rod's and Jeter's decline as well as Teixeira's downward trend. Neither team is as complete as the Rangers.

[ForeverYoung]

The Yankees and Tigers have rotation questions' date=' the Yankees also have A-Rod's and Jeter's decline as well as Teixeira's downward trend. Neither team is as complete as the Rangers.[/quote']

 

Ranger's Rotation is a giant question mark.

 

I really think the top four in AL for me would be.

1. Angels

2. Tigers

3. Red Sox

4. Rangers

 

Yankees are number 5, and Rays number 6.

 

You can call me a zealous fan, but the Sox BP is fine, SP is average with the potential to be above average, but their offense is monstrous and the addition of Cody Ross only makes it better. Top three in our SP rotation beats any top three in AL except for the Angels.

[iortiz]

I see a very competitive AL at this point, but IMO and considering this move, DET is definitely in the top tier.

[User Name]

Ranger's Rotation is a giant question mark.

 

I really think the top four in AL for me would be.

1. Angels

2. Tigers

3. Red Sox

4. Rangers

 

Yankees are number 5, and Rays number 6.

 

You can call me a zealous fan, but the Sox BP is fine, SP is average with the potential to be above average, but their offense is monstrous and the addition of Cody Ross only makes it better. Top three in our SP rotation beats any top three in AL except for the Angels.

 

The Angels are , again, massively overrated. They have a bunch of questions regarding health and production from their position players.

 

How is the Rangers' rotation a question mark? Even before Darvish, they have a load of pitching talent at the ML level and waiting in the Minors. They have great pitching.

 

Also, i don't see how you can make a case for anyone other than the Rangers at #1, the Red Sox over the Yankees, or the Angels even in the top 5. Detroit is better than the Angels..

[iortiz]

My rank would be:

 

1 Tex

2 NY

3 LAA

4 DET

5 BOS/Rays

 

If we sign the SP, IMO we will take the #3 or #4.

[Emmz]

Ranger's Rotation is a giant question mark.

 

I really think the top four in AL for me would be.

1. Angels

2. Tigers

3. Red Sox

4. Rangers

 

Yankees are number 5, and Rays number 6.

 

You can call me a zealous fan, but the Sox BP is fine, SP is average with the potential to be above average, but their offense is monstrous and the addition of Cody Ross only makes it better. Top three in our SP rotation beats any top three in AL except for the Angels.

 

The Rangers not tops and Red Sox over all those teams, I'm sorry but I don't see that. Not sure if I'm entirely sold on the Angels yet.

[User Name]

Yeah i don't get all the love for the Angels either.

 

Their BP isn't that good, the offense will be middle-of-the-pack even with Pujols. Their starting pitching is very good, but unless they can show they can hit AND stay healthy, they're not overtaking the Rangers.

[Palodios]

Why isn't anyone asking the crucial question.... Where on earth does he play?

 

Cabrera is righthanded, sure, but does anyone really see him playing 3B full time? Its not like you can let Vmart catch because you have Avila, and when Vmart comes back, he probably shouldn't catch with his health anyway. They have three more years of Vmart, four more years of Cabrera, and nine more years of Fielder.

 

They essentially paid 215 million a year for a DH... This contract will make the Crawford signing seem like a bargain.

[jacksonianmarch]

When it comes to ranking, your top 3 must be from each division. It doesnt matter the order. I doubt anyone wouldn't say the Yankees and the Tigers are the top dogs coming into 2012 in the East and the Central.

 

1. Yankees

2. Tigers

 

In terms of the AL West, I think you are massively underrating the Angels. Their pen has a good closer and a bunch of mush in the middle because after their top 3, they didnt have depth. Throw a healthy CJ Wilson in there and the rotation sures up, which will help the pen. Also, they are getting Morales AND Pujols on the squad for next yr, with Trumbo potentially being able to play the OF if needed. Their lineup will be pretty solid, their rotation nasty and their pen improved. I think they and the Rangers are the 3 and 4 teams respectively in the AL. You also have to figure that they play 40 games vs the A's and Mariners and you have to say the loser of that division is one of the top 5 teams

 

3. Rangers

4. Angels

 

For the all important 5, it's going to be between the Rays and Sox. The sox added Ross, but subtracted Scutaro and Reddick from the lineup. Plus, you are without Crawford for the beginning of the yr and who knows how long it'll take for him to respond. You also have Youkilis another yr older after another injury plagued yr. I think the offense is still a top 10 offense, but I doubt they replicate their #1 status. I think their pen additions stemmed an absolute disaster, but they arent enough to replace 3 very valuable relievers. As of right now, I have them on the outside looking in for the 5th and final playoff spot, mostly since the Rays pitching was lights out and now they have a full yr of Matt Moore. And they added Pena and a healthy Scott who both could team with Longoria, Upton, and Jennings to improve an anemic offense. If the sox add a quality #4, though, which thus allows them to shift Bard or Aceves back to the pen, then I think they flip up to the 5 spot. As of right now, I have the Rays 5 and the Sox 6.

 

5. Rays

6. Sox

 

After this, I think you see the next tier. The teams capable of being near .500 maybe better. I have the Jays in that discussion. I also have the Twins in that spot. The Twins should see Mauer and Morneau return to prominence which will see them improve their dreadful offense. Losing Cuddyer will hurt, but I think their rotation sees a boost from a healthy Liriano.

 

7. Blue Jays

8. Twins

 

Then there is the 70 win club. I think the Guardians, the Royals, and the Mariners fit into this club, 3 teams with good young cores, but not enough to be .500.

 

9. Guardians

10. Royals

11. Mariners

 

Then there are the doormats. This is the realm of the Orioles, White Sox and the A's. The O's just seriously suck and have no idea what they are doing. The White Sox dealt away their second best hitter and their second best pitcher left via FA. They also dealt away their setup man and closer without getting any true proven talent back. The A's also jettisoned their rotation by dealing Cahill and Gonzalez while getting prospects in return.

 

12. White Sox

13. Orioles

14. A's

[User Name]

The Rangers are the best team in the AL, Morales hasn't played in over a year, Trumbo doesn't get on base, and you're overrating the bullpen.

 

I understand that you're a Yankees fan, but you can be objective about it: The Yankees have more question marks than both the Rangers and the Tigers.

[a700hitter]

Why isn't anyone asking the crucial question.... Where on earth does he play?

 

Cabrera is righthanded, sure, but does anyone really see him playing 3B full time? Its not like you can let Vmart catch because you have Avila, and when Vmart comes back, he probably shouldn't catch with his health anyway. They have three more years of Vmart, four more years of Cabrera, and nine more years of Fielder.

 

They essentially paid 215 million a year for a DH... This contract will make the Crawford signing seem like a bargain.

Miggy and Prince will share 1st and DH in 2012. I don't know what happens in 2012 when VMart comes back.

[jacksonianmarch]

The Rangers are the best team in the AL, Morales hasn't played in over a year, Trumbo doesn't get on base, and you're overrating the bullpen.

 

I understand that you're a Yankees fan, but you can be objective about it: The Yankees have more question marks than both the Rangers and the Tigers.

 

Where? Tell me where the ???'s are. I am being honest with you here. After getting Pineda and Kuroda, they effectively closed their final major hole. Their offense lost Posada from last yr, which is addition by subtraction and a month's worth of Montero. They are likely to improve their offense over 2011's edition just by allowing Rodriguez the appropriate rest afforded by putting him at the DH spot more often than not. And, they are going to bring in someone who can put up a .700+OPS that Posada couldnt do on days that ARod can play 3b. The offense should at least tread water

 

Their pitching now has them 7 deep with bona fide big league starters. They have their ace, Pineda slides into the 2 hole, Kuroda the three and a 16 game winner from last yr in Nova is the #4. And their pen sees the return of Joba by midseason and likely sees the addition of Phil Hughes. And, you can expect a healthy Soriano back there. I havent been this happy with a Yankee team in awhile. I think the Tigers still have some offensive holes and their pen isnt as good or their rotation as deep. And I think the Rangers are relying on Darvish to replace their ace, which isnt a given at this juncture. I am sorry, but right now I think the Yankees are the AL favorites

[Divinity]

The absolutely amazing thing is that he's a VEGETARIAN

 

Being a vegetarian doesn't stop you from eating pizza, ice cream, french fries, cakes, etc.

[Laser Show]

Texas

Detroit

New York

Boston

Anaheim

Tampa

 

Those are my top 6. Texas is solid, top to bottom, and I could definitely see them winning their 3rd straight pennant. Detroit only got better, even with Martinez going down for the year. New York fixed a terrible rotation, IF Pineda can handle the spotlight. Otherwise they're in the same place they were in 2011. Then Boston, Tampa, and Anaheim are all about even. Boston can pull away and challenge the Yankees if they get another solid starter. The offense is already proven to be Top 3 in the AL.

[User Name]

Where? Tell me where the ???'s are. I am being honest with you here. After getting Pineda and Kuroda, they effectively closed their final major hole. Their offense lost Posada from last yr, which is addition by subtraction and a month's worth of Montero. They are likely to improve their offense over 2011's edition just by allowing Rodriguez the appropriate rest afforded by putting him at the DH spot more often than not. And, they are going to bring in someone who can put up a .700+OPS that Posada couldnt do on days that ARod can play 3b. The offense should at least tread water

 

Their pitching now has them 7 deep with bona fide big league starters. They have their ace, Pineda slides into the 2 hole, Kuroda the three and a 16 game winner from last yr in Nova is the #4. And their pen sees the return of Joba by midseason and likely sees the addition of Phil Hughes. And, you can expect a healthy Soriano back there. I havent been this happy with a Yankee team in awhile. I think the Tigers still have some offensive holes and their pen isnt as good or their rotation as deep. And I think the Rangers are relying on Darvish to replace their ace, which isnt a given at this juncture. I am sorry, but right now I think the Yankees are the AL favorites

 

Pineda is moving from Petco AL to NYY, Burnett is a mess, we still don't really know what Nova is, he wasn't projected to be as good as he was last year, what do you get from Kuroda? Does Garcia repeat his performance? Joba is post-surgical, so who knows what happens with him.

 

A-Rod and Jeter are a year older, Teixeira has been trending down for four consecutive years, you traded away Montero, which Martin shows up for the whole year? The world-beater or the pedestrian and does Granderson repeat his performance?

 

Those are all valid questions that are easy to see without the pink glasses on.

 

As for the rest of your post, there is the same type of "if only" that you so condemn on Red Sox fans. Be consistent.

[jacksonianmarch]

Burnett is a mess....and currently is 6th or 7th on the Yankee rotation depth chart. If the season started today, he'd be battling Hughes for the swing man role

 

Pineda is moving from SafeCo to NY, not Petco. And his peripherals outside of SafeCo were ace level. 1.17WHIP, 8.7K/9IP, 3.4K/BB. So it's not like he is lighting up the show at home and sucking on the road. Just for reference, those road peripherals are better than Lester's entire 2011 season. There is an angle with Pineda, but it's more health and ability to handle the bright lights. But those come with any Yankee acquisition

 

Kuroda has been remarkably consistent with his velocity, so thus far, the angle isnt a decline. It might come, but his stuff hasnt seen a major drop. My only concern with Kuroda was a spike in HR's last yr in a pitcher friendly park. But he's a veteran, who's started 30+ games in 3 of his 4 seasons in the majors and has been remarkably consistent all 4 seasons. He's being expected to be a #3 or 4 rather than a #2 like he was in LAD, so even if he throws to a low 4 ERA, he'd still do his job. The only major caveat here is health as it is with everyone, but realistically, he should give quality innings, even if he sees a rise in ERA

 

Joba is post-surgical and as it stands right now, would be in line for 6th inning duties should our plethora of starters not be able to go past 5. Not really a critical part of the pen here.

 

ARod and Jeter are a year older and they now have a pillowy DH spot to rest their heads so they dont have to work too hard and get hurt. ARod was lighting the world on fire before he got hurt and Jeter actually didnt look horrible like he did the yr before. We may see a decline, but we also might see a boost from a lesser grind in the field.

 

Tex has been trending down, but he also has put up 3 straights yrs of 30 and 100. And he's 2 yrs removed from a .900+OPS season. He isnt exactly old either at 31. He may rebound, but I doubt he slides much further

 

Montero had nearly no impact on the 2011 season. While it will hurt projections for 2012, you cannot consider him a loss since his only impact came in a month where the Yankees werent playing for anything

 

If the Martin that gets on base as a .350-.380 clip comes back, then maybe we actually get better. I'd take his 8HR and .360OBP season over his .324OBP and 18HR season. Regardless, he's young and no real worry there.

 

And Granderson has been doing it since August of 2010. An adjustment in his swing was all he needed. He was actually remarkably consistent last yr. He actually had an OPS of .840 or higher in all months except September, when once again, the Yankees had nothing to play for. I am not sure he hits 40 again, but there isnt any evidence that he cannot be a very productive player.

[User Name]

You're welcome to wear the blindfolds bro. Agree to disagree here.

[jacksonianmarch]

Anything can happen, I just don't think it's likely that we completely implode

[User Name]

I don't think they'll implode. But it's unlikely that the sailing will be as smooth as last year. I think you can agree with me on that.

[jacksonianmarch]

I don't think they'll implode. But it's unlikely that the sailing will be as smooth as last year. I think you can agree with me on that.

 

Last yr, the sailing was way smoother than expected because our rotation unexpectedly solidified. Our offense saw ARod miss a lot of time and come back a shell of himself, Teixeira stay at his prior season's low, and Posada fall apart. This yr, we should have an even more solidified rotation with Pineda and Kuroda coming on board. Now, injuries aside, we are the obvious, hands down AL East favorites. Injury could change it all

[User Name]

If the Red Sox don't fortify their rotation, then yes. But let me tell you this, it's not all about injuries. Age and possible ineffectiveness play a role.

[Divinity]

I think he and Miggy will share 1B and DH.

 

It's already been confirmed Miggy will be playing 3b