Crawford to have wrist surgery

[BSN07]

Red Sox outfielder Carl Crawford had surgery on his left wrist today, but is expected to play the "bulk" of the season.

 

Why in the hell did he wait until now to have surgery? He's had 3 months to sort this crap out... Just another thing to add to the list why I dislike this clown...

 

On a positive note, with no Dice-K, Lackey and Crawford to start the season it almost guarantee's a winning in April <_>

[BSN07]

WTF I have no idea how this ended up in the Game forum.... If a Mod is around could you please move this thread. Thanks

[RedSoxFan84]

Crawford didn't exactly do anything to make me like him last season, and this just pisses me off even more. The guy has talent and I think (or is that hope?) that he can bounce back with a much better year in 2012, but as you said, why the hell did he wait until now to have surgery? The medical staff on this team really are useless.

[BSN07]

I'm starting to feel the same way about the medical staff.

[Elktonnick]

I'm starting to feel the same way about the medical staff.

 

I agree 100%. Why was this not discovered sooner? Secondly, how did he injury the wrist? Was he hit by a ball? Did he fall awkwardly? Is it from overuse or does this portend a more serious long term problem? If this were my money, I be demanding some answers, especially if I were the owner who opposed this signing in the first place.

[iortiz]

I agree 100%. Why was this not discovered sooner? Secondly' date=' how did he injury the wrist? Was he hit by a ball? Did he fall awkwardly? Is it from overuse or does this portend a more serious long term problem? [b'] If this were my money, I be demanding some answers, especially if I were the owner who opposed this signing in the first place.[/b]

 

I would do the same, you bet, but If the point is demand answers right now, It won't make sense. Look, The medical staff is gone, The coaching staff is gone, Tito is gone and Theo is gone. Whom will you demand answers Elk? Luchino?

 

IMO this answer among a lot others were not satisfactory reason why all they walked.

[Elktonnick]

I would do the same, you bet, but If the point is demand answers right now, It won't make sense. Look, The medical staff is gone, The coaching staff is gone, Tito is gone and Theo is gone. Whom will you demand answers Elk? Luchino?

 

IMO this answer among a lot others were not satisfactory reason why all they walked.

 

Theo maybe gone but reprtedly it was baseball operations who supported bringing Crawford on board. Many, if not all are still there. More importantly if they knew about the injury a while ago why did they wait until January to schedule the operation. Cherrington was there then. He is thre now. As they used to say during Watergate (long before your time I know) What did he know? and when did he know it?

[User Name]

Supposedly the problem happened during CC's winter workouts, and it was not a pre-existing condition. According to the report, he called the medical staff as soon as he felt something was wrong.

[Elktonnick]

Supposedly the problem happened during CC's winter workouts' date=' and it was not a pre-existing condition. According to the report, he called the medical staff as soon as he felt something was wrong.[/quote']

 

Actually another report said that Sox staff knew of this injury months ago and that he has had pain in the wrist since 2005. CSNE last night raised the issue of possible long term concerns.

[User Name]

Well i guess we'll have to wait until the dust settles to see what actually happened. Either way, Crawford's attitude sucks.

[Elktonnick]

Well i guess we'll have to wait until the dust settles to see what actually happened. Either way' date=' Crawford's attitude sucks.[/quote']

 

I agree. When did he begin his winter workouts? There is something that doesn't ring true. I admit I am biased. I just don't care for his attitude.

[NativeBostonian]

This has turned out to be one of the worse signings I have seen in a long time.

[a700hitter]

Actually another report said that Sox staff knew of this injury months ago and that he has had pain in the wrist since 2005. CSNE last night raised the issue of possible long term concerns.

This possibly is a chronic condition? Great!

[iortiz]

I agree. When did he begin his winter workouts? There is something that doesn't ring true. I admit I am biased. I just don't care for his attitude.

 

If his attitude affects this team in some way (ex. chemistry), I'll care. I do not have all the elements to judge him but after reading here and there about his attitude, I guess that the guy simply lost the floor. Hopefully BV bring him back to earth.

[NativeBostonian]

If his attitude affects this team in someway (chemistry)' date=' I'll care. I do not have all the elements to judge him but after reading here and there about his attitude, I guess that the guy simply lost the floor. Hopefully BV bring him back to earth.[/quote']

 

He had a bad attitude when he played for the Tampa Rays. I highly doubt he changed just because he gets a bigger check every year.

[User Name]

I agree. When did he begin his winter workouts? There is something that doesn't ring true. I admit I am biased. I just don't care for his attitude.

 

Well we have 20,000,000 reasons a year to forcibly learn to love him.

 

 

Not to be a Theo apologist, but neither him nor Lackey look like Theo signings. To me, that reeks of Lucchino.

[redsoxbeatz]

Gotta have faith in CC. He is with us for quite a while longer, seven full-seasons ya? I don't see how a +7.5WAR player suddenly turns to a pile of mush. Is there a history of other players on par w/his WAR that have been traded [in the division!] and stopped laying golden eggs for the rest of their career, I'm seriously curious.

 

Anyway -- why does everyone hate Crawford's attitude? I must have missed an article or WEEI clip or something where CC pissed us all off or are we just referring to his slump last year???

[jung]

This was a known issue at the end of last season. The wrist issue reappeared when Crawford started his workouts after Christmas but it was not an unknown issue at the end of last season. In fact he was getting shots in the wrist to numb it up for games when it was really bothering him.

 

It was not ignored. A decision was made to let it be for a few months and see if it got better. That was the decision. I don't understand why they did not do an MRI at the end of the season as it would have very likely shown the same degree of damage that they found now. They could have done the surgery at that point and Crawford would not be looking at missing at least the beginning of ST if not more.

 

Goodbye to Dr. Gill and his band of merry hacks. His enduring legacy will be "We do not MRI bruises". See ya' latter Dr. Gill.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Such a s*** signing. Still can't believe people were actually in favor of this.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

I was in favor of getting Crawford over Werth. I never liked the contract though.

[User Name]

Werth was the better fit, and he probably wouldn't have sucked at Fenway.

[seabeachfred]

And get this guys......Cherington the patsy said that he was confident that Aviles and McDonald will be more than adequate taking Crawford's place until he is ready. Now do any of you need anymore evidence that Benny the Boob is a complete misfit for the job he currently has? The guy is either living on Mars or he has been so emasculated by Lucchino and Prune Face that he has ceased having an identity or a real opinion of his own. Do any of you really think McDonald is adequate to take Crawfords place considering he can't hit, he can't field, he is a disaster on the bases. As for Aviles, I like the guy and think he is a good hitter but his outfield experience is in negligible and it is a lot to ask of him. It is getting harder and harder to get upbeat about this coming season, and a week ago I was saying if we got that fourth starter and another reliever we could actually win the division. Say what you will about Crawford's 2011 season, but we will miss him. I think before this injury was miraculously discovered he was on his way to a vindicative season.

[Palodios]

And get this guys......Cherington the patsy said that he was confident that Aviles and McDonald will be more than adequate taking Crawford's place until he is ready. Now do any of you need anymore evidence that Benny the Boob is a complete misfit for the job he currently has? The guy is either living on Mars or he has been so emasculated by Lucchino and Prune Face that he has ceased having an identity or a real opinion of his own. Do any of you really think McDonald is adequate to take Crawfords place considering he can't hit' date=' he can't field, he is a disaster on the bases. As for Aviles, I like the guy and think he is a good hitter but his outfield experience is in negligible and it is a lot to ask of him. It is getting harder and harder to get upbeat about this coming season, and a week ago I was saying if we got that fourth starter and another reliever we could actually win the division. Say what you will about Crawford's 2011 season, but we will miss him. I think before this injury was miraculously discovered he was on his way to a vindicative season.[/quote']

 

Mcdonald 236 .303 .401 .704

 

Crawford .255 .289 .405 .694

 

Does it really make a difference one way or the other?

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Holy s***, I didn't realize how similar the stats were. I don't know why though, it just felt more frustrating to watch McDonald bat.

[a700hitter]

And get this guys......Cherington the patsy said that he was confident that Aviles and McDonald will be more than adequate taking Crawford's place until he is ready. Now do any of you need anymore evidence that Benny the Boob is a complete misfit for the job he currently has? The guy is either living on Mars or he has been so emasculated by Lucchino and Prune Face that he has ceased having an identity or a real opinion of his own. Do any of you really think McDonald is adequate to take Crawfords place considering he can't hit' date=' he can't field, he is a disaster on the bases. As for Aviles, I like the guy and think he is a good hitter but his outfield experience is in negligible and it is a lot to ask of him. It is getting harder and harder to get upbeat about this coming season, and a week ago I was saying if we got that fourth starter and another reliever we could actually win the division. Say what you will about Crawford's 2011 season, but we will miss him. I think before this injury was miraculously discovered he was on his way to a vindicative season.[/quote']I was shaking my head when I read Benny's statement about the platooning D Mac and Aviles in LF. First of all, they are both RH, so it's a bizarre platoon. Second , Aviles is an infielder and D Mac is a minor league hack. This is an atrocious LF pairing.

[seabeachfred]

Mcdonald 236 .303 .401 .704

 

Crawford .255 .289 .405 .694

 

Does it really make a difference one way or the other?

 

With those stats Palodios, no it doesn't make a difference but if I can counter your argument let me say that I think Carl's 2011 season was an abberation and not a sign of things to come. If Crawford makes even a modest comeback this season he will overwhelm anything that McDonald could do. I also believe that he is capable of doing even better than a modest comeback. What I hope is that he mends fast and is able to start the season on time and get off to a decent start. We need him to perform as his best, not what we saw last season.

[Palodios]

With those stats Palodios' date=' no it doesn't make a difference but if I can counter your argument let me say that I think Carl's 2011 season was an abberation and not a sign of things to come. If Crawford makes even a modest comeback this season he will overwhelm anything that McDonald could do. I also believe that he is capable of doing even better than a modest comeback. What I hope is that he mends fast and is able to start the season on time and get off to a decent start. We need him to perform as his best, not what we saw last season.[/quote']

 

I would definitely hope for a Crawford comeback. My point with that post was that even with Crawford completely worthless last year, the offense was just fine. They can survive without him for a month, but I would love to see his 2010 form when gets back.

[RedSoxFan84]

I would definitely hope for a Crawford comeback. My point with that post was that even with Crawford completely worthless last year' date=' the offense was just fine. They can survive without him for a month, but I would love to see his 2010 form when gets back.[/quote']

 

 

 

I agree. We don't really have any other choice than to hope that he turns things around and gets back to that Silver Slugger/Gold Glove/All Star form of 2010. If he is going to come close to being worth his contract, and ultimately make it possible for us to trade him if we want, then he will need to find some of his old form.

 

I was just reading a scouting report on Crawford, and it mentioned this in the positives section: Works hard to better himself in all aspects of the game--in particular the mechanics of his swing and his power.

 

 

Lets hope that's true, because if he can work out whatever problems he had last season with his swing last season, then we could be looking at a really handy player for us in the future.

[Muggah]

Gotta have faith in CC. He is with us for quite a while longer' date=' seven full-seasons ya? I don't see how a +7.5WAR player suddenly turns to a pile of mush. Is there a history of other players on par w/his WAR that have been traded [in the division!'] and stopped laying golden eggs for the rest of their career, I'm seriously curious.

 

Anyway -- why does everyone hate Crawford's attitude? I must have missed an article or WEEI clip or something where CC pissed us all off or are we just referring to his slump last year???

 

With all due respect, this is the kind of attitude that does the most damage. By simply resigning yourself to cheering for CC because he's signed long term is enabling ownership and the FO to continue to think these types of signings are acceptable. We have to do the complete opposite. If CC continues to suck he needs to be booed off the field mercilessly until the situation becomes untenable, thus forcing ownership to eat his contract and move him. That's the only way these dumbass owners will learn.

[jacksonianmarch]

This possibly is a chronic condition? Great!

 

Wrist injuries take a long time to get back from as a baseball player. No sports motion isolates the wrist as much as hitting a baseball. There is a very real possibility that CC needs most of this upcoming yr to get back to productivity, especially with the delay in diagnosis and treatment