Road Games

[wyo-sox]

So if you could go watch the sox play any regular season road game next year- where would it be? Tell us why- the city, stadium, a rivalry, a certain player?

 

I'm probably going to see them play at Anaheim, primarily because it is by far the cheapest way for me to see them. Went to see them in Minneapolis last year and had a good time.

[wyo-sox]

I guess I should have also asked- have you ever been to an Angels game and if so how was your experience?

[iortiz]

If everything goes right next year, I will be in Fenway Park for once and for all.

 

Then, maybe I'll go to Arlington, Tx as well since it is the closets park from Monterrey. It's about 8-10 hours from here, driving.

[a700hitter]

Camden Yards is a great place to see a Sox game. While in Baltimore, vist Mo's Crabhouse in Little Italy and take in the sights on East Baltimore street if you like some seedy fun and you are not a wuss.

[wyo-sox]

I do have a good friend that was raised in MA. He lives near Baltimore now. He said he enjoys watching the Sox play there. I considered flying there, but if I did that I might as well just make my pilgrimage to Fenway. Either way not in the budget just yet.

[wyo-sox]

Camden Yards is a great place to see a Sox game. While in Baltimore' date=' vist Mo's Crabhouse in Little Italy and take in the sights on East Baltimore street if you like some seedy fun and you are not a wuss.[/quote']

 

Oh, and I have been accused of being a wuss on more than one occasion but am conflicted as I enjoy all things seedy???

[a700hitter]

Oh' date=' and I have been accused of being a wuss on more than one occasion but am conflicted as I enjoy all things seedy???[/quote']some people are scared to go to Baltimore street, but unless you are afraid of seedy fun there is nothing to fear. It might be one of the safest streets in Baltimore, because the Police Precinct is at the end of the block. LOL! The businesses are operating in full view of the cops. If anyone were to get robbed or hurt, Vice would clamp down on the place and shut it down.

[FredLynn]

I guess I should have also asked- have you ever been to an Angels game and if so how was your experience?

 

I have been there a couple of times. Seabeachfred has been there probably 100 times, I would guess. He lives in SoCal and I used to live there. Pretty good place to watch a game, though I don't much care for the city of Anaheim-too much concrete, smog, cars etc. I don't think you will be disappointed by catching a game there.

[mvp 78]

I guess I should have also asked- have you ever been to an Angels game and if so how was your experience?

 

It's a rat infested shithole that had concessions closed for a series as it failed a health inspection.

 

If you're in the area, just see the Dodgers. It's a beautiful stadium.

 

As for your question, I'd want to go to Tampa so that MVP Jr could see a game with his Nana and go to Epcot after.

[BOSOX11]

I've been attending Angels/Red Sox games since 1961, starting at Wrigley Field, then Dodger Stadium (although the Angels called it Chavez Ravine) and Anaheim.

[Elktonnick]

Camden Yards is a great place to see a Sox game. While in Baltimore' date=' vist Mo's Crabhouse in Little Italy and take in the sights on East Baltimore street if you like some seedy fun and you are not a wuss.[/quote']

 

Both Baltimore and Philadelphia have great stadiums. The inner harbor and little Italy are wonderful but Baltimore is a very dangerous town don't venture too far North or west from the park. Philly is an easy park to drive to and park, Both Baltimore and Philly are great palces to watch games. Club level seats (If you can get them in Philly) are worth the price.

[a700hitter]

Both Baltimore and Philadelphia have great stadiums. The inner harbor and little Italy are wonderful but Baltimore is a very dangerous town don't venture too far North or west from the park. Philly is an easy park to drive to and park' date=' Both Baltimore and Philly are great palces to watch games. Club level seats (If you can get them in Philly) are worth the price.[/quote']Baltimore is not dangerous for tourists at all. East Baltimore Street and its sleeze might be intimidating to the feint of heart, but it's not dangerous. The inner harbour is great. Citizens Bank park is really in the middle of nowhere, and Philly fans suck the big one.

[Gringo]

Pac Bell, or whatever it's called now.

[wyo-sox]

I've been attending Angels/Red Sox games since 1961' date=' starting at Wrigley Field, then Dodger Stadium (although the Angels called it Chavez Ravine) and Anaheim.[/quote']

 

I heard at Angels stadium you can bring in your own food- any truth to that?

[FredLynn]

I heard at Angels stadium you can bring in your own food- any truth to that?

 

I suggest you PM Seabeach Fred. He has been to a whole lot of games there and would give you an honest assessment of what its like. I found it just fine...and the weather is great during the whole season.

[a700hitter]

Pac Bell' date=' or whatever it's called now.[/quote']Great ballpark, but you will freeze your as off at night games in July.

[mvp 78]

Yeah, need to dress in layers and prepare for the daily fog to roll in.

[Beaneater]

I've seen them most recently in Detroit, which was a surprisingly nice experience considering that the city in general is a festering hole. As a bonus, I got to see Timmay and Timlin shut the Tigers the heck out (OK, so it wasn't that recently).

 

I've seen more games in Arlington than anywhere else; that's also a really nice park.

[Elktonnick]

Baltimore is not dangerous for tourists at all. East Baltimore Street and its sleeze might be intimidating to the feint of heart' date=' but it's not dangerous. The inner harbour is great. Citizens Bank park is really in the middle of nowhere, and Philly fans suck the big one.[/quote']

 

Not true my friend. I've lived in Maryland for the past fifteen years and my youngest duaghter works at Johns Hopkins. I drive around theBaltimore regularly on business in its toughest neighborhoods. Two or three blocks west and North of the yard can be pretty hairy. The city plays down the violence in the Inner Harbor but itrs real. Baltimore has one of the highest murder and violent assualt rates in the U.S. Just watch Baltimore TV every night. Philly's ball park is in the center of its sports complex where all the teams arenas are. It is easier to drive to and get out of. Unlike Fenway it's not downtown true but it is a great venue to watch baseball.

[a700hitter]

Not true my friend. I've lived in Maryland for the past fifteen years and my youngest duaghter works at Johns Hopkins. I drive around theBaltimore regularly on business in its toughest neighborhoods. Two or three blocks west and North of the yard can be pretty hairy. The city plays down the violence in the Inner Harbor but itrs real. Baltimore has one of the highest murder and violent assualt rates in the U.S. Just watch Baltimore TV every night. Philly's ball park is in the center of its sports complex where all the teams arenas are. It is easier to drive to and get out of. Unlike Fenway it's not downtown true but it is a great venue to watch baseball.

I am familiar with the crime statistics, but it almost never involves tourists, and nothing bad happens on East Baltimore street.

[a700hitter]

The area around the race track is not something that I would like to stroll through.

[Elktonnick]

I am familiar with the crime statistics' date=' but it almost never involves tourists, and nothing bad happens on East Baltimore street.[/quote']

 

Really now!

 

Baltimore's The Block is a stretch on the 400 block of East Baltimore Street in Baltimore, Maryland containing several strip clubs, sex shops, and other adult entertainment merchants. In the first half of the 20th century, it was famous for its burlesque houses. It was a noted starting point and stop-over for many of noted burlesque dancers, including the likes of Blaze Starr.

 

By the 1950s, the clubs became seedier, as burlesque was replaced by strip clubs and sex shops.[1] The Block of that era is featured prominently in several films, notably Barry Levinson's Liberty Heights and Diner, as well as Steve Yeager's independent feature drama On The Block, with Howard Rollins.[2]

 

The decades to follow would bring a marked increase in general crime, prostitution, and drug dealing, an unusual situation considering the location of Baltimore's Police Headquarters and Central Police District House at the east end of the block. It has been suggested that the police, whose headquarters are located literally next to The Block, choose to contain the prostitution and drug dealing in that small section of Baltimore rather than combat it.

 

The passing decades would see a shrinking of the area. Once several blocks long, stretching almost to Charles Street in the central part of downtown Baltimore, today The Block only stretches about two blocks long from South Street to Gay Street.

 

Pollock Johnny's sausage restaurant was a local landmark on the strip into the 1980s.

 

In recent years, The Block has undergone a bit of a revival with the opening of Larry Flynt's Hustler Club, and its next-door neighbor Norma Jean's, an upscale urban strip club.

 

A 5 alarm fire on December 6th, 2010 heavily damaged four buildings, including the building that formerly housed the Gayety Theater. The fire was believed to be an arson. [3]

[a700hitter]

Really now!

 

Baltimore's The Block is a stretch on the 400 block of East Baltimore Street in Baltimore, Maryland containing several strip clubs, sex shops, and other adult entertainment merchants. In the first half of the 20th century, it was famous for its burlesque houses. It was a noted starting point and stop-over for many of noted burlesque dancers, including the likes of Blaze Starr.

 

By the 1950s, the clubs became seedier, as burlesque was replaced by strip clubs and sex shops.[1] The Block of that era is featured prominently in several films, notably Barry Levinson's Liberty Heights and Diner, as well as Steve Yeager's independent feature drama On The Block, with Howard Rollins.[2]

 

The decades to follow would bring a marked increase in general crime, prostitution, and drug dealing, an unusual situation considering the location of Baltimore's Police Headquarters and Central Police District House at the east end of the block. It has been suggested that the police, whose headquarters are located literally next to The Block, choose to contain the prostitution and drug dealing in that small section of Baltimore rather than combat it.

 

The passing decades would see a shrinking of the area. Once several blocks long, stretching almost to Charles Street in the central part of downtown Baltimore, today The Block only stretches about two blocks long from South Street to Gay Street.

 

Pollock Johnny's sausage restaurant was a local landmark on the strip into the 1980s.

 

In recent years, The Block has undergone a bit of a revival with the opening of Larry Flynt's Hustler Club, and its next-door neighbor Norma Jean's, an upscale urban strip club.

 

A 5 alarm fire on December 6th, 2010 heavily damaged four buildings, including the building that formerly housed the Gayety Theater. The fire was believed to be an arson. [3]

:lol:I see that you are familiar with the area. A close friend of mine is familiar with the cops there. I don't doubt that some drug pushers, club owners and strippers don't show up dead every once in a while, but no tourists get hurt. The precinct is at the end of the block. If tourists started becoming victims of anything other than STD's they would shut the place down. I have heard from very reliable sources that the cops get freebies when they are off duty. The cops have contained the sleaze, but they are not going to let tourists get victimized. When the Yankees are in town, those places are full of Yankee fans and Red Sox fans fill the places when the Sox are in town. The sleazy establishment owners know that hurting tourist would be bad for business and their survival.

 

BTW: I've been going there before Flyntt opened his club. I won't go in there. It is too commercial, too upscale and not seedy enough for my tastes. East Baltimore Street is not for the feint of heart, but it you go there wearing a Red Sox hat when the Sox are in town, nothing bad will happen to you unless you request it and pay for it.

[Elktonnick]

:lol:I see that you are familiar with the area. A close friend of mine is familiar with the cops there. I don't doubt that some drug pushers, club owners and strippers don't show up dead every once in a while, but no tourists get hurt. The precinct is at the end of the block. If tourists started becoming victims of anything other than STD's they would shut the place down. I have heard from very reliable sources that the cops get freebies when they are off duty. The cops have contained the sleaze, but they are not going to let tourists get victimized. When the Yankees are in town, those places are full of Yankee fans and Red Sox fans fill the places when the Sox are in town. The sleazy establishment owners know that hurting tourist would be bad for business and their survival.

 

BTW: I've been going there before Flyntt opened his club. I won't go in there. It is too commercial, too upscale and not seedy enough for my tastes. East Baltimore Street is not for the feint of heart, but it you go there wearing a Red Sox hat when the Sox are in town, nothing bad will happen to you unless you request it and pay for it.

 

There were more than two dozen fatal stabbings and shootings within two blocks of East Baltimore St last year. Tourists are mugged stabbed robbed and shot all the time, just not publicized as much. The Inner Habor, Littly Italy are safe relatively but it is very bad advice to suggest that tourists are immune or that a Red sox hat will protect you. Baltimore is a very very dangerous city. And I am not someone who is feint of heart.

[a700hitter]

There were more than two dozen fatal stabbings and shootings within two blocks of East Baltimore St last year. Tourists are mugged stabbed robbed and shot all the time' date=' just not publicized as much. The Inner Habor, Littly Italy are safe relatively but it is very bad advice to suggest that tourists are immune or that a Red sox hat will protect you. Baltimore is a very very dangerous city. And I am not someone who is feint of heart.[/quote']That's not what I am hearing from my cop friend who is pretty high up in NYPD. I could understand not publicizing things, but I don't think cops lie to cops about this stuff.

 

BTW: The first several times I went down to East Baltimore street was on cop trips where i was an invited guest. I like to travel into the seedier establishments with off duty cops. I like to be with the cops for protection from the local cops not the patrons in the seedy establishments.

 

I wouldn't recommend walking by one self around East Baltimore street. There is always the possibility of a mugging, but going to the places on East Baltimore street with 2 or 3 guys is not a problem. Give me some stats on comparing crimes against tourist on East Baltimore street vs. the upscale inner harbor if you've got them. It's possible I am being misinformed.

[a700hitter]

There were more than two dozen fatal stabbings and shootings within two blocks of East Baltimore St last year. Tourists are mugged stabbed robbed and shot all the time' date=' just not publicized as much. The Inner Habor, Littly Italy are safe relatively but it is very bad advice to suggest that tourists are immune or that a Red sox hat will protect you. Baltimore is a very very dangerous city. And I am not someone who is feint of heart.[/quote']But not on East Baltimore Street?

[Elktonnick]

But not on East Baltimore Street?

 

Not true there were more than two dozen murders stabbing and fatalities this year alone within one and two blocks north and south of east baltimore st. Hey if you want to trust your luck in that neighborhood after dark be my guest but one of my relatives, friends and professional colleagues will probably be picking up the pieces. Here read this ( You know you really have no idea what you are talking about)

 

"A number of years ago, multiple shootings at street corners in Baltimore fairly common. A teen armed with a gun and bad aim would simply spray the corner hoping to hit his target, and get a few more in the process.

 

But nothing ever happened like the spate of shootings last night in East Baltimore, where a dozen people were shot at a backyard party on Ashland Avenue, followed by a double fatal shooting two hours later on Fayette Street, followed by yet another double shooting on East Baltimore Street (here is a map).Baltimore police were quiet at the scene and we don't know many details yet. Some might be related, others not (the one on East Baltimore Street was well away from the other two) and the place where a dozen were wounded is only a couple blocks from where a 17-year-old was shot and killed a week ago.

 

Police might have a few people in custody and they have a bullet-riddled car whose driver pulled up to the emergency room at Johns Hopkins. Police and paramedics must have been taxed to the limit (there was at least one othe shooting elsewhere in Baltimore, bringing the total for one night to 17).

 

I'll update as much as possible throughout the day.

 

It was a busy Twitter night for city cops. Here's how they put the initial information out through the night (most recent at top):

 

SHOOTING: Reported at Baltimore & Bond Male shot. Police investigating http://nixle.us/7QJR

about 8 hours ago from API

 

 

 

Comments

 

Just want to give public praise and kudos to the Baltimore Sun's Justin Fenton for getting out in the trenches last night. Truly it's sad to see that at all these shootings, the only ones doing old school, pavement pounding report was lone wolf Fenton, an enigmatic blogger ;-).

 

What does it say of a major city that lacks comprehensive media getting out there, interviewing, investigating and chronicling local going ons, even if it is late at night. Truly I am saddened when I check other local outlets and the best they can provide is a passing blurb.

 

Not only is last night sadly historic for Baltimore, but I'm afraid it may land us another national dubious distinction. Would not be surprised if this story quickly spreads far and wide."

[a700hitter]

Nothing involving tourists on East Baltimore Street. Like I said, I wouldn't walk around the neighborhood or hang on the street corners. I get in a cab that drives me to E. Baltimore Street and I take a cab back to my hotel. I don't hang with the homies on the corners and I don't wander off E. Baltimore street.

 

I go there a couple of times every year. Do you?

[Elktonnick]

Nothing involving tourists on East Baltimore Street. Like I said, I wouldn't walk around the neighborhood or hang on the street corners. I get in a cab that drives me to E. Baltimore Street and I take a cab back to my hotel. I don't hang with the homies on the corners and I don't wander off E. Baltimore street.

 

I go there a couple of times every year. Do you?

 

Pardon me if I sound rude but I am not that foolish. I avoid places like that unless I have to, professionally. BTW I have been shot at several times, held at gun point and survied a terrorist expolision albeit not in Baltimore. I consider Baltimore more dangerous then those places. I don't need to prove my manhood by going into places where risky behavior takes place. Hey like you said tourists are never victims in Baltimore. You keep believing that! It's good for the economy. And Maryland Shock Truama does excellent work. That's why we call it "Charm City ", Hon!

[a700hitter]

Pardon me if I sound rude but I am not that foolish. I avoid places like that unless I have to' date=' professionally. BTW I have been shot at several times, held at gun point and survied a terrorist expolision albeit not in Baltimore. I consider Baltimore more dangerous then those places. I don't need to prove my manhood by going into places where risky behavior takes place. Hey like you said tourists are never victims in Baltimore. You keep believing that! It's good for the economy. And Maryland Shock Truama does excellent work. That's why we call it "Charm City ", Hon![/quote']No one is challenging your manhood. Other than a few close friends who have accompanied me there, no one knows that I have been near the place. I just like that kind of scene on occasion.

 

IMO, Hospitals are by far more dangerous places than East Baltimore Street for tourists-- deadly infection is epidemic even in the best hospitals and incompetent care is a big problem too. The biggest danger you face in a strip club on E. Baltimore street other than an STD is a dirty bar glass. I only drink bottle beer in those places.

 

Where did those terrible things happen to you?

 

I appreciate your concern, but I'll keep going for my visits and leaving at a reasonable hour around 1 am. Most of the bad s*** that goes on happens in the early morning hours after 3 am. The tourists are safely in their hotel beds by that time.

 

My advice to tourists. Take a cab to and from E. Baltimore street. Stay on E. Baltimore street. Avoid the surrounding area. Go with a friend or two, preferably off-duty cops. Drink Bottled Beer. Avoid bar glasses.