Tiant

[Spitball]

Luis Tiant is one of the ten candidates for the Baseball Hall of Fame who will be on the Veterans Committee ballot next month. I have always felt he compared well with Catfish Hunter and others already in.

 

228 wins and a 1.19 whip. And, who knows how old he really was when he was pitching in the big leagues. Tony Perez was amazed in the 1975 World Series when he saw Luis was listed as younger than he. He remembered watching Tiant pitch in the Cuban League when Perez was a little kid.

[SoxSport]

Tiant belongs in the HOF. Big game pitcher. The only differences between him and Catfish Hunter are Hunter played for the Yankees and Tiant was better.

[mvp 78]

Hunter was better and has more rings. Makes a difference to HOF voters.

[Spitball]

Hunter was better and has more rings. Makes a difference to HOF voters.

 

Blue Moon Odom also had more rings, and I don't think there is even an argument for him.

 

Tiant won more games. He also pitched more seasons, more games, more innings, fewer homers, had more strikeouts, more Ks per 9, and a better k:bb. I think the two were comparable.

[jung]

Some love for El Tiante', a starting pitcher that actually knew what the 9th inning looked like from the mound instead of the damned clubhouse!

[Gringo]

Get him in there!

[a700hitter]

Tiant was a great big game pitcher. When he had stuff in his younger days, he was unbeatable. In his latter years,he was an artist on the mound, and just when you thought all he had was junk, he'd climb the ladder with 3 straight fastballs to strike out Bobby Bonds. The guys was masterful during seasons when Fenway was a launching pad--before the additional structures were added changing the wind patterns

[YAZMAN]

Tiant was a great big game pitcher. When he had stuff in his younger days' date=' he was unbeatable. In his latter years,he was an artist on the mound, and just when you thought all he had was junk, he'd climb the ladder with 3 straight fastballs to strike out Bobby Bonds. The guys was masterful during seasons when Fenway was a launching pad--before the additional structures were added changing the wind patterns[/quote']

 

He had a rubber arm, too...

 

well into his 40's.

[SoxSport]

Hunter was better and has more rings. Makes a difference to HOF voters.

 

I don't think Hunter was better. Their numbers were similar.

And Kaat may have been better than both of them.

 

Tiant is like Kaat--he didn't play for the Yankees. And the Yankees play in Mediatown.

Agreed on that.

 

Anybody posting this thread should have seen Tiant, Hunter and Kaat pitch.

[User Name]

I don't think Hunter was better. Their numbers were similar.

And Kaat may have been better than both of them.

 

Tiant is like Kaat--he didn't play for the Yankees. And the Yankees play in Mediatown.

Agreed on that.

 

Anybody posting this thread should have seen Tiant, Hunter and Kaat pitch.

 

People can post in whatever thread they want, provided they bring something to the table. Get over yourself.

[jung]

The length of Kaat's career was pretty staggering and while I was not as experienced as I am now in my ability to see not just look at what a pitcher is doing I can remember how much respect the two teams I have spent the most time (Sox and Yanks) showed for Kaat when he came to town.

 

Struggling in anonymity has real meaning without the Internet.

 

I do think Tiant and Hunter had more showy careers over shorter periods but I just cannot imagine hawlin' the mail for the length of time Kaat played. The last couple of years were not much to be sure.

[Dojji]

He had a rubber arm, too...

 

well into his 40's.

 

Umm no he didn't, he was out of the bigs after his age 41 season.

[YAZMAN]

Umm no he didn't' date=' he was out of the bigs after his age 41 season.[/quote']

 

Sure...if you go by his "birth certificate".

[SoxSport]

I do think Tiant and Hunter had more showy careers over shorter periods but I just cannot imagine hawlin' the mail for the length of time Kaat played. The last couple of years were not much to be sure.

 

Kaat had 9 lives--and about 3 careers. Maybe that's why his nickname is Kitty.

[Spitball]

Kaat had 9 lives--and about 3 careers. Maybe that's why his nickname is Kitty.

 

Kaat compares pretty well with recently inducted Bert Blyleven.