8/31 vs. Yankees

[yankees228]

I don't see how that makes a difference at all. If you get hit' date=' just walk to first. Stop acting like someone kicked your dog.[/quote']

 

Because when Pedro was with the Red Sox he could throw at people all he wanted without having to worry about any ramifications directly affecting him. It's akin to someone punching someone else and then running away. Gibson and Drysdale hit people, and then they had to step in the batter's box and give the other team a chance to directly retaliate.

[a700hitter]

Really?

Venezuelan

[BornToRun]

Venezuelan

 

Well in all fairness, a lot of the Jersey Shore cast is hardly Italian and they still count as guidos. Actually, to make it simple, let's just say he's an *******.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

I love how people act as if he did anything wrong' date=' what was he gonna do in that situation?[/quote']

 

The same thing any sane individual would do when an overweight elderly man is "running" toward them, sidestep and walk away. I love Pedro and thought the move was funny but in reality it was a real dickheaded move.

 

Cervelli isn't Italian.

 

 

Cervelli is Italian. He's from Venezuela but of Italian descent, just like Marco Scutaro.

[mvp 78]

Why is Reddick bunting?

[a700hitter]

I love AGon, but hitting 1 and change against the Yanks isn't going to cut it. Manny used to hit 5 and change against the Yanks.

[BornToRun]

Because when Pedro was with the Red Sox he could throw at people all he wanted without having to worry about any ramifications directly affecting him. It's akin to someone punching someone else and then running away. Gibson and Drysdale hit people' date=' and then they had to step in the batter's box and give the other team a chance to directly retaliate.[/quote']

 

I would imagine they didn't get drilled a lot. I don't think Gibson or Drysdale are guys you'd want to piss off.

[Wells]

Nope. Not at all and you wouldn't have been either if he pitched for your team. One of my favorite moments was when he threw Zimmer to the ground' date=' still love that! [/quote']

 

Awesome haha.. I remember watching that game and I just about fell off my chair I LMAO when Zimmer went down.. I didn't feel sorry for Zimmer from the outset.. he's tough, he can take it.. plus Pedro is like 130 pounds at the time.. ok, 155 but whatever haha

[a700hitter]

Well in all fairness' date=' a lot of the Jersey Shore cast is hardly Italian and they still count as guidos. Actually, to make it simple, let's just say he's an *******.[/quote']Major *******.

[yankees228]

I would imagine they didn't get drilled a lot. I don't think Gibson or Drysdale are guys you'd want to piss off.

 

Possibly, but they still had to step in there ... which is the point.

[mvp 78]

Because when Pedro was with the Red Sox he could throw at people all he wanted without having to worry about any ramifications directly affecting him. It's akin to someone punching someone else and then running away. Gibson and Drysdale hit people' date=' and then they had to step in the batter's box and give the other team a chance to directly retaliate.[/quote']

 

I just don't see why it should matter. Batters should just brush it off and walk to first.

[Reck]

When Gonzales is hot he's hot. When he's cold he's like non existent.

 

What a wasted inning.

[BornToRun]

Possibly' date=' but they still had to step in there ... which is the point.[/quote']

 

Oh I'm not arguing with you, I'm just guessing that hitting both of those guys was on the list of "Things I shouldn't do."

[a700hitter]

The reason why Cervelli's *******ness should embarrass Yankee fans is because he sucks a fat dick.

[BornToRun]

The reason why Cervelli's *******ness should embarrass Yankee fans is because he sucks a fat dick.

 

Being cocky and good is one thing, being cocky and a mediocre backup catcher is another.

[a700hitter]

Being cocky and good is one thing' date=' being cocky and a mediocre backup catcher is another.[/quote']He's aspires to be mediocre.

[BornToRun]

He's aspires to be mediocre.

 

He aspires to be half of what Dougie was.

[yankees228]

I just don't see why it should matter. Batters should just brush it off and walk to first.

 

Well now this is beginning to separate itself into two separate arguments. I'll take one at a time.

 

On the idea that hitting batters doesn't matter: This one is pretty simple. It's dangerous. A well placed fastball can end someone's season. Batters get hit all the time, it's unavoidable. But there's no reason to do it initially. Pitchers can control the inner third and stop batters from diving out over the plate without hitting them.

 

On the difference between Pedro hitting people and Gibson/Drysdale hitting people: I'll be as direct as possible. When Pedro did it (or any recent day AL pitch for that matter) there's an element of cowardice involved, because it leaves no opportunity for retribution. Not the case with Gibson and Drysdale.

[BornToRun]

Well now this is beginning to separate itself into two separate arguments. I'll take one at a time.

 

On the idea that hitting batters doesn't matter: This one is pretty simple. It's dangerous. A well placed fastball can end someone's season. Batters get hit all the time, it's unavoidable. But there's no reason to do it initially. Pitchers can control the inner third and stop batters from diving out over the plate without hitting them.

 

On the difference between Pedro hitting people and Gibson/Drysdale hitting people: I'll be as direct as possible. When Pedro did it (or any recent day AL pitch for that matter) there's an element of cowardice involved, because it leaves no opportunity for retribution. Not the case with Gibson and Drysdale.

 

But what about the possibility that you're teammates are gonna pay for what you did? I could see that being seen as a dick move but I think there are still repurcussions for drilling people in the AL.

[iortiz]

Venezuelan

 

mmm... The Latin narrator is saying that he has Italian ascendency

[yankees228]

But what about the possibility that you're teammates are gonna pay for what you did? I could see that being seen as a dick move but I think there are still repurcussions for drilling people in the AL.

 

There are, but they aren't nearly as direct. I think it's a significant difference.

[Reck]

mmm... The Latin narrator is saying that he has Italian ascendency

 

Nobody is 100% of one race anymore. They're always mixed nowadways.

[BornToRun]

There are' date=' but they aren't nearly as direct. I think it's a significant difference.[/quote']

 

Well, I think it might depend on the individual pitcher. I'm sure some guys would rather get hit than have one of their teammates getting hit.

[a700hitter]

mmm... The Latin narrator is saying that he has Italian ascendency

I'm sure that he has Italian roots with that name, but an hispanic with Italian heritage is not a Guido-- that distinction goes to NY Italians and those straight from Italy.

[BornToRun]

I'm sure that he has Italian roots with that name' date=' but an hispanic with Italian heritage is not a Guido-- that distinction goes to NY Italians and those straight from Italy.[/quote']

 

I think our definitions of the term guido are very different.

[yankees228]

Well' date=' I think it might depend on the individual pitcher. I'm sure some guys would rather get hit than have one of their teammates.[/quote']

 

I agree that some pitchers might be reluctant to put their teammates in harms way, but all we're really talking about is the ones that do ... in which case they don't seem to mind.

[Wells]

Nobody is 100% of one race anymore. They're always mixed nowadways.

 

You've ever been to the upper-midwest? still plenty of "pure breds" up this way.. germans, polish, and norwegians dominate here

[VA Sox Fan]

mmm... The Latin narrator is saying that he has Italian ascendency

 

I thought he was Italian too. His quote from last night:

 

“I don’t remember,” Cervelli said when asked what he and Saltalamacchia were saying. “A lot of Spanish, because at that moment, I forgot my English.”

 

But I thought Scutaro was Italian at one time too...LOL

[BornToRun]

I thought he was Italian too. His quote from last night:

 

“I don’t remember,” Cervelli said when asked what he and Saltalamacchia were saying. “A lot of Spanish, because at that moment, I forgot my English.”

 

But I thought Scutaro was Italian at one time too...LOL

 

I was really hoping for Salty to get into it with him, that would've been one hell of a lopsided fight,

[a700hitter]

I think our definitions of the term guido are very different.

I live in NY and have a largely Italian family. I know what a Guido is.