Crawford put on Waivers

[MJantomaso]

Just read on Twitter that the Sox have put C.C. on Waivers.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Just read on Twitter that the Sox have put C.C. on Waivers.

 

They always put everyone on waivers. I believe they even put Buchholz on waivers last year. They'll pull him back if he gets claimed, it's more of a disguising technique. I'd be more interested in who they put on waivers along with him.

[Cocos Disciples]

Doubt anyone claims him. Not that the Sox would trade him anyway.

[MJantomaso]

They always put everyone on waivers. I believe they even put Buchholz on waivers last year. They'll pull him back if he gets claimed' date=' it's more of a disguising technique. I'd be more interested in who they put on waivers along with him.[/Quote']

 

Good. Even though he has struggled this season, I'd hate to see them get rid of him after 1 year.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Good. Even though he has struggled this season' date=' I'd hate to see them get rid of him after 1 year.[/quote']

 

Absolutely zero chance that the Sox would ever dish him. No need to be the slightest bit concerned. GM's typically put almost their entire roster on waivers every August both to get a feel for how other GM's feel about their players, and also to "hide" the real players they are open to trading.

[Palodios]

Seeing as there is absolutely no consequence for putting a player on waivers and rescinding it, it should not be much of a surprise. No one will claim Crawford, but if someone did, the Sox FO would probably get rid of him.

[yankees228]

Seeing as there is absolutely no consequence for putting a player on waivers and rescinding it' date=' it should not be much of a surprise. No one will claim Crawford, but if someone did, the Sox FO would probably get rid of him.[/quote']

 

I highly the Red Sox FO would allow Crawford to go to a team that claims him. They believed prior to this season that he would be worth the contract they gave him, and they're too smart to change their opinion based on a few months.

[Palodios]

I highly the Red Sox FO would allow Crawford to go to a team that claims him. They believed prior to this season that he would be worth the contract they gave him' date=' and they're too smart to change their opinion based on a few months.[/quote']

 

Look at it more closely. The first year of the contract was the cheapest, and supposed to be one of the more productive years, so they lose out on the cheap year, and the productivity from an earlier year that was supposed to earn value for the later years of the contract. Now they're paying 6/126 for a guy who may not perform at a high level in the later years of the contract, and a guy whose defense has not held up well in Fenway's LF.

[Flynnatic10]

What the hell.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Look at it more closely. The first year of the contract was the cheapest' date=' and supposed to be one of the more productive years, so they lose out on the cheap year, and the productivity from an earlier year that was supposed to earn value for the later years of the contract. Now they're paying 6/126 for a guy who may not perform at a high level in the later years of the contract, and a guy whose defense has not held up well in Fenway's LF.[/quote']

 

He got a $6mm signing bonus, so if they dished him now, they would still have paid $22mm for him this season, which actually makes him more expensive than any other year.

[yankees228]

Look at it more closely. The first year of the contract was the cheapest' date=' and supposed to be one of the more productive years, so they lose out on the cheap year, and the productivity from an earlier year that was supposed to earn value for the later years of the contract. Now they're paying 6/126 for a guy who may not perform at a high level in the later years of the contract, and a guy whose defense has not held up well in Fenway's LF.[/quote']

 

That's not an unreasonable way to look at the situation, but I don't think it gets around the fact that the Sox expect Crawford to be very productive well into the duration of the contract. If I were Theo I might consider letting him go too, but I wouldn't have given him that money in the first place. Theo likely views the contract differently than we do, so I doubt he would let him go this quickly. Also keep in mind that letting him go would essentially be admitting that they were wrong, something I'm not sure they'd be willing to do.

[SoxSport]

Why do they put anybody on waivers?

Of course they are interested in dealing him.

They are testing the waters.

With Ells, Kalish and Reddick--plus the imbalanced lineup--maybe they see him as expendable.

[Palodios]

That's not an unreasonable way to look at the situation' date=' but I don't think it gets around the fact that the Sox expect Crawford to be very productive well into the duration of the contract. If I were Theo I might consider letting him go too, but I wouldn't have given him that money in the first place. Theo likely views the contract differently than we do, so I doubt he would let him go this quickly. Also keep in mind that letting him go would essentially be admitting that they were wrong, something I'm not sure they'd be willing to do.[/quote']

 

Theo claimed he was wrong about Mike Cameron just a few weeks ago. Because of the payroll size, they can afford to make mistakes, and that money could be put into a lot of other moves.

[BornToRun]

It would be very stupid in my opinion to even think about dealing CC. His talent didn't just evaporate, last thing I want is to dump him and then watch him play like the guy we paid for. Way too early to give up on him.

[yankees228]

Theo claimed he was wrong about Mike Cameron just a few weeks ago. Because of the payroll size' date=' they can afford to make mistakes, and that money could be put into a lot of other moves.[/quote']

 

It's a lot different to claim you're wrong about a smaller signing than it is to claim you're wrong about one of your signature signings.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I would be extremely pissed if the Sox dished Crawford.

 

But this is ridiculous. I would be shocked if the Sox even entertained offers on him if he was claimed, and if they did entertain offers, Theo would have to be blown out of the water to make a move.

[BornToRun]

It's a lot different to claim you're wrong about a smaller signing than it is to claim you're wrong about one of your signature signings.

 

Exactly, Mike Cameron was a stopgap outfielder, not a 142 million dollar superstar of an investment.

[IRON HORSE]

The red sox are not pulling the plug on the "Crawford Experiment" yet in Boston. Crawford started off very rusty and had an unfortunate injury that sidelined him. He was trying too hard to be more than he was in Tampa, now Crawford seems to be shaking the cobwebs off and adjusting very nicely in the red sox roster. Like previous posts mentioned, a lot of players are placed on waivers.

[Spitball]

Absolutely zero chance that the Sox would ever dish him. No need to be the slightest bit concerned. GM's typically put almost their entire roster on waivers every August both to get a feel for how other GM's feel about their players' date=' and also to "hide" the real players they are open to trading.[/quote']

 

I agree. There is no chance this means the Sox want to get rid of Crawford.

[Emmz]

I highly the Red Sox FO would allow Crawford to go to a team that claims him. They believed prior to this season that he would be worth the contract they gave him' date=' and they're too smart to change their opinion based on a few months.[/quote']

 

Agreed. Crawford from 2006-2010 put up numbers to suggest he could earn his money, and then some. They might have overpaid a little in the end because of this season, but I don't think anyone would care if they got mostly what was advertised for the rest of the deal.

[SoxSport]

They are just testing the waters.

 

He'll be around .280 by the season end, along with close to career numbers. except for stolen bases.

 

Ellsbury's emergence has definitely made Crawford expendable.

 

That's what I'm reading here.

[Emmz]

He is not going to come even close to his career averages man. 20 points off is not close. His OPS will be down by at least 100 points total, probably closer to 150-200 points off. He has been terrible this season, don't try to deny that. I'm not calling him a bust at all, it's one year, he's got time, he can still redeem himself if he gives it the real Carl Crawford for the rest of the deal. This isn't out of the question, considering he's produced the value of his contract or better since 2006 for the most part, he was hurt for one year in 2008.

[SCM33]

I highly the Red Sox FO would allow Crawford to go to a team that claims him. They believed prior to this season that he would be worth the contract they gave him' date=' and they're too smart to change their opinion based on a few months.[/quote']

 

If another team claimed Crawford, the sox front office would be assisting with the packing of his bags.

 

Not going to happen, because no other team is dumb enough to pay him 20Million dollars. I like Carl Crawford regardless of his struggles, but that is a terrible contract that no other team will go near.

[Emmz]

It's not a very good contract because he would have to produce at 2006-2010 levels into his 30s to be worth more than his contract in WAR. It's not out of the question, it's just sort of questionable whether he can. Crawford usually plays a lot every year, he's played mostly around 150 games or so per season, a good clip, and I think his skill set translates well into his 30s.

 

It's still a big risk contract like any high paying contract that stretches into a player's 30s. I think he will come close to fulfilling his contract value when it's up personally, but he will really have to produce starting next year. I have full faith that he will be back kicking ass and quite possibly taking a few names.

[iortiz]

Look at it more closely. The first year of the contract was the cheapest' date=' and supposed to be one of the more productive years, so they lose out on the cheap year, and the productivity from an earlier year that was supposed to earn value for the later years of the contract.[/b'] Now they're paying 6/126 for a guy who may not perform at a high level in the later years of the contract, and a guy whose defense has not held up well in Fenway's LF.

 

+1

 

If somebody claims him (doubt it) they will let him go, and nobody is gonna miss him at all.... ok, ok, ok, maybe those clubs around here hehehehe!

[SoxFanForsyth]

+1

 

If somebody claims him (doubt it) they will let him go, and nobody is gonna miss him at all.... ok, ok, ok, maybe those clubs around here hehehehe!

 

I'm sorry man, but there is absolutely no way in hell that the Sox deal Crawford. The Sox always put everyone on waivers. It's to flood the wire so they can get players they're interested in dealing through without being claimed.

[SoxFanForsyth]

If another team claimed Crawford' date=' the sox front office would be assisting with the packing of his bags.[/b']

 

Not going to happen, because no other team is dumb enough to pay him 20Million dollars. I like Carl Crawford regardless of his struggles, but that is a terrible contract that no other team will go near.

 

Absolutely not. No way in hell. You honestly think that Theo is going judge Crawford's contract based on 105 games, and say "Nope. Doesn't fit. Lets get rid of him"?

 

Overreact much?

[SoxFanForsyth]

Actually you guys are right. Theo will definitely get him out of here as soon as he can if someone claims him. Hell, who gives a s*** about the World Series this year. We'd be much better off with Darnell McDonald in LF than Carl Crawford. D-Mac has such a better ceiling than Crawford.

 

We will gamble and hope that Drew comes back healthy, and then we'll stick Reddick and McDonald in LF. That seems reasonable....

[a700hitter]

Actually you guys are right. Theo will definitely get him out of here as soon as he can if someone claims him. Hell, who gives a s*** about the World Series this year. We'd be much better off with Darnell McDonald in LF than Carl Crawford. D-Mac has such a better ceiling than Crawford.

 

We will gamble and hope that Drew comes back healthy, and then we'll stick Reddick and McDonald in LF. That seems reasonable....

I agree. I have never seen so much discussion over such a non-event with the possible exception of the poll-thread about whether we would want Bedard or some prospect on the Dodgers. There was 1 vote for the Dodger- no doubt the creator of the thread. Lol! Seriously, this is the stretch run. We should have better things to discuss- like who will be the #3 guy in the playoffs and why.

[Palodios]

Actually you guys are right. Theo will definitely get him out of here as soon as he can if someone claims him. Hell, who gives a s*** about the World Series this year. We'd be much better off with Darnell McDonald in LF than Carl Crawford. D-Mac has such a better ceiling than Crawford.

 

We will gamble and hope that Drew comes back healthy, and then we'll stick Reddick and McDonald in LF. That seems reasonable....

 

When Crawford comes up to the plate, do you feel any more confident in him than Reddick, Drew, or Kalish? At this point, he just feels like a #7. This year, Carl Crawford has produced .5 WAR. To put that in perspective, Darnell Mcdonald has produced .4 WAR.

 

Buchholz is out. The team is beaten up, and hasn't gotten any kind of help from its farm system this year, outside of some production from Reddick. Philadelphia is an unstoppable force. I just don't think that holding onto a player with such a high potential to be a bust is better than giving the team an opportunity to win in the future. And its not like it will hurt their public image with the fans, because he's had such a rough year that he hasn't taken with the fans yet.

 

That being said, no one will claim him.