Posada is done

[jacksonianmarch]

OPS right around .600, BA right around .150 and hasnt hit a homer in 14 games. We got by when he was hitting .170 but had 6 homers. Who would have thought he would have gotten worse from there. He's hitting 9th tonight and should be replaced at DH once Chavez comes back. I'd actually bring up Jorge Vazquez, a guy who was signed out of Mexico at the age of 25, and all he has done is rake. He hit 2 more homers today and has 14 on the season with an OPS approaching .950. He's right handed, he has a ton of power and he couldnt be any worse than Posada. If the Chavez-Vazquez platoon flops, then you bring up Montero

[Cocos Disciples]

Posada was scratched from the lineup tonight, apparently.

 

They'll give him time, but he's also on the decline. That's what happens with 39 year old catchers (I know he hasn't caught this year).

 

Jacko, why not just call up Montero right away if he is the catcher of the future anyway? Why wait around?

[jacksonianmarch]

Montero needs to get his power going. Thus far this yr, he's hitting .330 but he only had 6 doubles and 2HR. And his walks are down. He's 21, I'd wait until he's swinging it like he knows how. He started off slowly last yr on all fronts, so this is an improvement. Also, I think Vazquez has earned a shot at the DH spot. He hit moonshots in spring training, then he went to AAA and has crushed the ball there as well. The guy needs a shot even if it is only as a platoon man. If he fails, then bring up Montero in July

[jacksonianmarch]

Posada is RETIRING. That is my call

[Cocos Disciples]

Wouldn't surprise me. Cashman was very somber in that interview. Maybe Posada told him before the game.

[Meh]

Posada is RETIRING. That is my call

 

your call? did you not see Cashman's interview? haha.

[jacksonianmarch]

I love Posada and he was a great Yankee. But he is a shell of himself and he knows it. It would be a standup move to pass on the cash and retire now. He still has $10 million coming to him

[Meh]

I love Posada and he was a great Yankee. But he is a shell of himself and he knows it. It would be a standup move to pass on the cash and retire now. He still has $10 million coming to him

 

If he does and theres another $10 million in our pockets to go along with that $18 million we had to begin with to spend at the trade deadline... that would be nice. Also I hope we call up Vazquez, two homeruns in todays game so far with a BB.

[jacksonianmarch]

Jack Curry says that Posada threw a hissy fit about hitting 9th. We'll see

[jacksonianmarch]

NYYfans is saying that Posada threw a hissy fit and took himself out of the lineup. Rumor has it that if he does it again tomorrow, the Yanks will terminate his contract

[yankees228]

NYYfans is saying that Posada threw a hissy fit and took himself out of the lineup. Rumor has it that if he does it again tomorrow' date=' the Yanks will terminate his contract[/quote']

 

They should look into doing that, but I doubt it happens. As Ken Rosenthal said, it's very complicated.

 

If they can't terminate his contract, they should give him the option of retiring, and if he doesn't do that, he should be DFA'd.

[jacksonianmarch]

This is exactly what this team doesnt need right now. The team is scuffling, good offensive players arent hitting, old offensive players are slipping into obscurity and now we have a borderline HOFer throwing a hissy fit before a Yankee-Red Sox game

[yankees228]

This is exactly what this team doesnt need right now. The team is scuffling' date=' good offensive players arent hitting, old offensive players are slipping into obscurity and now we have a borderline HOFer throwing a hissy fit before a Yankee-Red Sox game[/quote']

 

It's all about how it ends. If this saga concludes with Posada out of the everyday lineup (or off the team) and Montero in it, I see that as a huge positive, because it's a chance the Yankees won't make voluntarily.

[a700hitter]

Posada is RETIRING. That is my call

He's not walking away from all that $ left on his contract. He probably wants some catching time, and maybe he'll get it, or maybe he'll seek his release. It would be great if he got released, and the Red Sox signed him for the minimum and he shared the catcher position with Varitek.

[a700hitter]

NYYfans is saying that Posada threw a hissy fit and took himself out of the lineup. Rumor has it that if he does it again tomorrow' date=' the Yanks will terminate his contract[/quote']They will not be able to terminate his contract.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

This is exactly what this team doesnt need right now. The team is scuffling' date=' good offensive players arent hitting, old offensive players are slipping into obscurity and now we have a [b']borderline HOFer[/b] throwing a hissy fit before a Yankee-Red Sox game

 

I really don't think he's HOF material.

 

He's not walking away from all that $ left on his contract. He probably wants some catching time' date=' and maybe he'll get it, or maybe he'll seek his release. [b']It would be great if he got released, and the Red Sox signed him for the minimum and he shared the catcher position with Varitek.[/b]

 

 

hahaha. No. No. nononononono

[a700hitter]

I really don't think he's HOF material.

 

 

 

 

hahaha. No. No. nononononono

He's still 10 times better than Salty.

[boston22407]

He's not walking away from all that $ left on his contract. He probably wants some catching time' date=' and maybe he'll get it, or maybe he'll seek his release. It would be great if he got released, and the Red Sox signed him for the minimum and he shared the catcher position with Varitek.[/quote']

 

i could dig that,better then what salty has shown

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

hahaha. No. No. nononononono

 

This.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

He's still 10 times better than Salty.

 

You've got to be kidding. I understand you don't like Salty, and he is underperforming, but don't be stupid. Having Posada as a catcher would be even worse than Salty. We already have Varitek who is old and can barely do anything, why have a 2nd 40 year old catcher who can do even less? If you think Salty can't throw anyone out, Posada only threw out 13 base stealers in 85 attempts... in 80 games. That's ridiculous. Other than those 6 random homers he'd be hitting worse than Salty is now. Hell, the Yankees took a chance on a catcher with leg problems who had operations over having Posada even be a part time catcher. Lucky for the Yankees that worked out for them.

 

 

Signing a washed up catcher who can't even DH to split time at catcher is one of the dumbest suggestions I've seen on this site

[a700hitter]

You've got to be kidding. I understand you don't like Salty' date=' and he is underperforming, but don't be stupid. Having Posada as a catcher would be even worse than Salty. We already have Varitek who is old and can barely do anything, why have a 2nd 40 year old catcher who can do even less? If you think Salty can't throw anyone out, Posada only threw out 13 base stealers in [b']85[/b] attempts... in 80 games. That's ridiculous. Other than those 6 random homers he'd be hitting worse than Salty is now. Hell, the Yankees took a chance on a catcher with leg problems who had operations over having Posada even be a part time catcher. Lucky for the Yankees that worked out for them.

 

 

Signing a washed up catcher who can't even DH to split time at catcher is one of the dumbest suggestions I've seen on this site

An off year with the bat for Posada would be a career year for Salty.

 

Edit: And it has nothing to do with "not liking". Salty just stinks.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

An off year with the bat for Posada would be a career year for Salty.

 

Edit: And it has nothing to do with "not liking". Salty just stinks.

 

Salty has played 4 years vs Posada's 16 years. I don't think that's a fair assumption.

[a700hitter]

Salty has played 4 years vs Posada's 16 years. I don't think that's a fair assumption.

At age 26 (Salty's age), Posada had become the Yankees' full time catcher and he had a pretty good season. We'll see how Salty ends up this year.

[Divinity]

I love Posada and he was a great Yankee. But he is a shell of himself and he knows it. It would be a standup move to pass on the cash and retire now. He still has $10 million coming to him

 

I seriously doubt he would leave $10 mill on the table when he said he feels a little bit disrespected by the Yankees as of late.

[Palodios]

hahaha. No. No. nononononono

 

Hmm... he has power.... and he can throw balls back to the pitcher. Sounds better than Salty to me

[a700hitter]

Posada used to get in Manny's face for not playing the game right when he would hot dog it after homering, etc. At least Manny was a great player. Posada couldn't carry his jock, and now he has shown himself to be every bit the punk that Manny ever was.

[yankees228]

In terms of his HOF candidacy, Posada is close.

 

11th highest OPS of any catcher

14th highest WAR

 

I'd probably lean slightly towards no, but I find Jacko's assessment of him as a 'borderline HOFer' to be reasonable.

[jacksonianmarch]

I really don't think he's HOF material.

 

 

 

 

hahaha. No. No. nononononono

 

http://www.thebaseballpage.com/baseballpage/top/50-catchers

 

Not bad rankings. Posada ranks ahead of HOFer Elston Howard and right behind Bill Dickey. Having 5 rings (4 of which he actually participated in) also helps. I think he ends up being a borderline guy who might get in, but it wont be on the first ballot

[a700hitter]

http://www.thebaseballpage.com/baseballpage/top/50-catchers

 

Not bad rankings. Posada ranks ahead of HOFer Elston Howard and right behind Bill Dickey. Having 5 rings (4 of which he actually participated in) also helps. I think he ends up being a borderline guy who might get in, but it wont be on the first ballot

He's not going in. Not a chance. Howard was a great defensive catcher and he won an MVP and he didn't make the Hall. He was on 9 All Star teams. Munson was far better than Posada and he is not in the Hall. Posada doesn't have a chance at being even borderline.

[Palodios]

Two down, two to go.