Baseball Redraft League Draft and Discussion Thread

[SoxFanForsyth]

italian - i'm sending you my next pick with a back up just in case.

[a700hitter]

No Werth signing and potential Yankee swoop in scenario for you buddy. All you' date=' no circumstances.[/quote']I'm not big on excuses or rationalizations.

[Dipre]

I can see that. The Beltran pick explains it very well.

[a700hitter]

I can see that. The Beltran pick explains it very well.

You are just biased against Dominicans.

[italstallianion]

There's plenty of time for arguments when the draft is over and we're doing powerrankings.

[italstallianion]

In any case, it'll be Exman's turn when he wakes up in the morning. Hopefully those nearby (Ytrb, Divinity, Will) will send me some picks by the time I wake up tomorrow.

[italstallianion]

I have Ytrb's picks.

[italstallianion]

I also have Forsyth's pick and I can see RSFFL sending me his pick in the morning. In addition, I'm talk with Dipre all the time so I have easy access to his picks.

[italstallianion]

Just to make a point, while you can do it, I wouldn't recommend drafting a random starter and sticking him as your long reliever. It would likely count against you. Unless of course, the starter was going back and forth from starting and relieving, but that's another story. I'm referring to drafting someone like CC Sabathia and putting him as your long reliever.

[yrtb]

I think that starting pitchers would be the best long relievers...

[italstallianion]

Perhaps if they had experience. You don't see the real teams necessarily using starter starters as their long relievers. Some might, but it's not a good idea to plug a random starter who has had no experience relieving and to use him as a long reliever.

 

There's a difference between someone who's gone back and forth between a starter and a reliever and has had experience as a long reliever (Tim Wakefield) and someone that's just a pure starter and has had no experience relieving (CC Sabathia, David Price, the pick you sent me, and about 100 others)

[italstallianion]

I'm not making a rule that's saying that you can't do it, but I think that it's a really bad idea, and it's something that I'd look at when voting, not that it would decide a matchup or anything. I'm sure that others will chime in in the near future.

[Dipre]

Yeah, turning a starter with no previous relief experience into a long reliever doesn't seem like such a good idea.

 

This isn't like a 2B moving to 3B where it's basically the same, but more like moving sa 2B to OF, a transition which takes time and is not guaranteed to be succesful. If he hasn't done it in real life, it should be looked down upon.

 

Anyone can do it, ut i'd hold it against them.

[Will617]

I don't think that it would be that big of a deal. If anything, I think pitch selection for relievers is more forgiving (since the batter hasn't seen their stuff before, and most relievers get away with throwing a lot of fastballs) and that most starters would perform better as a long reliever. I guess there could be issues in terms of adjusting to the role - how long they can pitch, etc, but personally I don't find it to be a big deal.

Of course, this is your long reliever, so it's not exactly the most important role to fill. They'll only be pitching if your starter sucked - in which case, you'll probably be on your way to losing anyway - or if your starter blew out his arm.

[EXman369]

Tony Sipp-407,000

[italstallianion]

Ytrb wanted Evan Meek RP .4135m

 

Divinity is up.

[Divinity]

Clay Hensley RP .425m

[italstallianion]

The main reason why I'm against using a regular starter as a long reliever is because it's something that you can do in fantasy sports that doesn't help build a real team. For example, something like that would be like stacking your bullpen with 3-4 closers. That's a very common principle in fantasy baseball, but not a sound one in a redraft. In addition, in fantasy baseball people often grab the best offensive players with no thought towards salary or defense, which again, would work in fantasy baseball but not here.

 

The main reason why I'd be against something like using a pitcher who's SOLELY a starter as a long reliever is that it not only isn't realistic, but it would nullify any point in using their 2011 numbers as a barometer for their worth. You certainly couldn't use their WAR and assume that it'd be the same as a reliever. In my opinion, there's a HUGE difference between using someone that's gone back and forth between the rotation and bullpen (like Joba Chamberlain) as a long reliever, and using someone that's only been in the rotation (like CC Sabathia).

[Divinity]

Do you have Will's picks Ital?

[italstallianion]

Nope, at this moment I believe that I only have RSFFL, Ytrb, Forsyth, and Dipre's picks.

[italstallianion]

I bet that Will comes on and makes his picks in the near future. He isn't at school or anything so it's not like he won't be back until 3pm. So you should stick around Divinity, and if not then just send me a pick and a backup pick and you can be on your way.

[a700hitter]

The main reason why I'm against using a regular starter as a long reliever is because it's something that you can do in fantasy sports that doesn't help build a real team. For example, something like that would be like stacking your bullpen with 3-4 closers. That's a very common principle in fantasy baseball, but not a sound one in a redraft. In addition, in fantasy baseball people often grab the best offensive players with no thought towards salary or defense, which again, would work in fantasy baseball but not here.

Does salary have any significance other than it's impact on the cap?

[italstallianion]

I don't know where you're going with this, but I don't think so.

[a700hitter]

I don't know where you're going with this' date=' but I don't think so.[/quote']I have never done one of these redrafts, so I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't missing anything.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I don't know where you're going with this' date=' but I don't think so.[/quote']

 

I'm assuming he's curious as to whether it will impact the power ranking voting.

 

i.e. Is Team A at $92mm better than team B at $110mm.

 

As in the value of the team in comparison to the monetary value spent.

[italstallianion]

I'm assuming he's curious as to whether it will impact the power ranking voting.

 

i.e. Is Team A at $92mm better than team B at $110mm.

 

 

No. Not at all.

[a700hitter]

No. Not at all.

Thanks. That was my concern.

[italstallianion]

No problem. It's just who has the best team. The power rankings will be before the season starts so it won't be a big deal, and there will be some power ranking during the season, but the main deal is the voting at the end of the season. The matchups will be made via the power rankings, but the voting will (hopefully) be based on the 2011 stats along with gameplans from the "Managers", or the posters.

[Will617]

Josh Willingham, DH (backup OF), Oakland A's, $4.6M

Joel Hanrahan, RP, Pirates, $453K

[italstallianion]

Divinity is up again.