Lee signs with the Phillies

[redsoxrules]

might as well a thread of it

 

 

The wait is over. Cliff Lee has agreed to sign with the Phillies, according to MLB.com's T.R. Sullivan. Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News hears it's a five-year deal (Twitter link).

 

Lee, Roy Halladay, Roy Oswalt and Cole Hamels should give the Phillies a historically good rotation and the Yankees and Rangers will have to look elsewhere for an ace.

 

The Yankees' final offer was for $150MM over seven years, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com (Twitter link).

 

can a mods fix the thread ? i put sings insted of signs LOL

[bsox0407]

Sings and Signs in one night. What a night. lol. This is a huge deal. Lee Makes Phillies so much better than before. Makes Yankees panic??

[redsoxrules]

WOW... its a 5 year deal , that's a huge paycut

 

the yankee's final offer was 7/150 according to heyman

[bsox0407]

WOW... its a 5 year deal , that's a huge paycut

 

the yankee's final offer was 7/150 according to heyman

 

20 a year is a paycut. But he Loved Philly.

[example1]

He didn't want to play for the Yankees.

 

Who can blame him, their fans shat on his wife's head.

 

The Yankees blew it. They couldn't close the deal. They had him sitting down and they didn't get it done. Players never want to play in a particular place, they always take the most money, Teixeira, yada, yada.

 

Enjoy this Yankees fans. You lost your White Whale.

[WhiskeyBreath]

5/100? Are you kidding me?

 

Would LOVE to have that contract instead of Crawford's.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Hey Yankees, f*** YOU!

[example1]

5/100? Are you kidding me?

 

Would LOVE to have that contract instead of Crawford's.

 

I'm sure the Sox would have offered it too if he had been interested. Happily. Apparently they offered 7 years.

 

I think we will enjoy having Crawford on this club.

[WhiskeyBreath]

I'm sure the Sox would have offered it too if he had been interested. Happily. Apparently they offered 7 years.

 

I think we will enjoy having Crawford on this club.

 

Sure, but that's a steal for Philly.

 

Best rotation in baseball now.

[bsox0407]

Not only did the Yankees not get him but we dont need to face him this year unless he makes the playoffs. I dont think we have them in Interleague.

[boston22407]

redsox over phill 6 games in ws

[Teddyballgame10]

5/100? Are you kidding me?

 

Would LOVE to have that contract instead of Crawford's.

 

Clearly he wanted to go back to Philly and we would not have been able to get away with that.

[WhiskeyBreath]

Clearly he wanted to go back to Philly and we would not have been able to get away with that.

 

obviously...

[Dipre]

redsox over phill 6 games in ws

 

Boston Red Sox over Philadelphia Phillies in 6 games, 2011 World Series prediction.

 

I'm going to start translating your posts, so all of the members of the site can understand them (when i can understand them myself of course).

[Cocos Disciples]

So, uh, what do the Yankees do now?

[boston22407]

Boston Red Sox over Philadelphia Phillies in 6 games, 2011 World Series prediction.

 

I'm going to start translating your posts, so all of the members of the site can understand them (when i can understand them myself of course).

 

I would write it out more but I am typing on a my itouch it is a pain in the ass to write on it , by the way get of my dick

[Dipre]

I would write it out more but I am typing on a my itouch it pain in the ass write on it ' date=' by the way get of my dick[/quote']

 

I suppose you mean get "off" my dick, even though i'm not on it, (and i doubt anyone's been on it for some time).

 

Anyway, RSFFL writes on his Itouch all the time, and i've posted from my PSP a couple times. That's not a valid excuse.

[WhiskeyBreath]

So' date=' uh, what do the Yankees do now?[/quote']

 

Cue the Felix Hernandez trade rumors...

[Will617]

So' date=' uh, what do the Yankees do now?[/quote']

 

I hear Russell Martin is on the market. And I guess the Yankees have the money to offer him 7 years 150 million now...

[Dipre]

Carl Pavano.

[boston22407]

I suppose you mean get "off" my dick, even though i'm not on it, (and i doubt anyone's been on it for some time).

 

Anyway, RSFFL writes on his Itouch all the time, and i've posted from my PSP a couple times. That's not a valid excuse.

 

cool buddy

[Cocos Disciples]

Cue the Felix Hernandez trade rumors...

 

I think the Mariners have made it pretty clear he isn't available.

[WhiskeyBreath]

I think the Mariners have made it pretty clear he isn't available.

 

You think that is going to stop NYY fans from dreaming of Felix? The rumors will be a plenty.

[Cocos Disciples]

You think that is going to stop NYY fans from dreaming of Felix? The rumors will be a plenty.

Oh for sure, there will be a bunch of rumors, but it just won't happen.

[bsox0407]

Jon Heyman

halladay received about $115 million for 5 years from phillies, plus vesting option. thats actually slightly higher AAV than yankees offer

[example1]

I don't think there are any obvious replacement options, especially if they don't like Greinke.

 

That's what gives this move such delicious comparisons to Mark Teixeira. We might have to project forward a few years to find the next franchise caliber pitcher who is available.

 

I would dispute that Francisco Liriano is at that level currently.

 

Someone mentioned Josh Johnson earlier, or Felix Hernandez. Other names to throw about are guys like:

 

Ubaldo Jimenez--Unlikely, seems Colorado wants to build their team right now. Of course, Montero and Tulo and CarGo could be a pretty good trio to build around in a non-pitcher's park.

 

Tim Lincecum--Seems like a good fit in SF (where wouldn't he fit, with his skills?). Still controlled for a few years.

 

Zack Greinke--Yankees afraid of a recent Cy Young winner. Go figure. The kid gets a lot of s*** for battling anxiety on the big league stage in a time of tremendous identity formation. There is a reason the Red Sox (and most other good teams) take the time to let boys become men before joining the club. KC doesn't have--or doesn't care about--that ability.

 

Both Greinke and Buchholz are pitchers who, if they let their stuff dominate, are very hard to beat. I think once they become confident in that they will be just fine. I think at this point both have turned a pretty key corner. Buchholz has better stuff, IMO, and I think his ceiling is just as high.

 

Who else would be that elite talent? A guy like Chad Billingsley would be a nice mid-rotation young addition, but he's not a complement to CC. Lee was that guy, and I don't see anyone else who stands out.

 

With that in mind, how much do you think the Yankees would offer John Lackey if they were in a bidding war with Anaheim right now? In this environment, Lackey still seems like a "smart buy" by the Sox. They could have punted for one year on SP and wouldn't have had any good options , and may even have felt compelled to trade some pieces for a pitcher. Even if his contract and performance so far hasn't met all expectations, guys like Lackey who can perform suitably in the AL are quite valuable for competitive franchises.

[CoachC.]

I think Lee just looked at the Red Sox lineup, and said no thanks.

[example1]

Jon Heyman

halladay received about $115 million for 5 years from phillies, plus vesting option. thats actually slightly higher AAV than yankees offer

 

23m is a big contract. There are a small number of teams that see themselves as right on the verge of a championship who are willing to pay for certainty and playoff competitiveness.

 

The Sox, Yankees and Phillies all showed up to the auction but only the Yankees are walking away empty-handed. It's a great thing.

[example1]

I think Lee just looked at the Red Sox lineup' date=' and said no thanks.[/quote']

 

He might have also looked at their rotation and said no thanks. There isn't an obvious opening and they have signed three big-name FAs the past few years in Lackey, Beckett and Matsuzaka. Those are three guys with "ace level" contracts and abilities.

 

Fortunately, the Sox have two other aces who have actually performed like it so they are deep at that position.

 

It is gratifying to finally see someone say no to the Yankees.

[Dipre]

E1, i'm as high on Buch as anybody else, but come on. Greinke has better stuff.