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Patterson has been on the roster for 29 games. He's played 24 of them. Either its Ellsbury's fault, or its Tito's fault, but he should not be playing CF.
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Is it? Wasn't able to watch beginning of game so didn't see the injury to Youk. But, initial reports look good.

 

The initial exam on the right thumb of Kevin Youkilis was negative. But he will have an MRI tomorrow morning. He had swelling when he got jammed in the first inning.

 

Jacoby Ellsbury said he has no idea when he will be able to play in the majors. "I'll be feeling something for the rest of the year," he said. He balked at further questions, saying he didn't like talking about his situation after games.
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It doesn't matter. The Sox are done.

 

I have to agree. The Sox were very unlikely to make the playoffs even before they lost their best hitter for at least the next 15 days.

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I have to agree. The Sox were very unlikely to make the playoffs even before they lost their best hitter for at least the next 15 days.

 

it's not as bad as having pedroia, v-mart and ellsbury on the dl at the same time. our offense has been down 2-3 hitters all year

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it's not as bad as having pedroia' date=' v-mart and ellsbury on the dl at the same time. our offense has been down 2-3 hitters all year[/quote']

 

And Lowell is a hitting machine. Pedey and Ells will be back soon.

 

For those of you throwing in the towell....GFY! :harhar::lol:

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it's not as bad as having pedroia' date=' v-mart and ellsbury on the dl at the same time. our offense has been down 2-3 hitters all year[/quote']

 

I recently read that the Red Sox have never made the playoffs when facing an August 1st deficit of more than 2 games, they are currently 6.5 back.

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UPDATE, 6:07 p.m.: Theo Epstein just said that Youkilis has a torn adductor muscle and that the head of one of the muscles ruptured.

 

Epstein said it was not clear how long Youkilis would be out or whether he would need surgery. They're waiting for him to see another specialist after be was examined today by Dr. Matthew Leibman at Mass General.

 

They hope to get an answer in the next few days.

 

He indicated that the only team interested in obtaining Lowell were the Yankees. "It would not have been an easy thing to do," Epstein said.

 

There were discussions but they did not result in a trade, obviously.

 

UPDATE, 4:50 p.m.: Terry Francona just met with the media. Youkilis had a MRI at Mass General this morning and was found to have a torn muscle in his thumb that could require surgery.

 

Doctors are uncertain about the extent of the injury but it's serious enough that Youkilis would risk a more severe injury by playing. Youkilis will get another opinion soon.

 

"They're searching for some answers because this is, I think, quite rare," Francona said. "How it happened is a little hard to explain. ... In the meantime, there's no way we're going to let him play and take a swing and hurt his career. That's why he's on the disabled list. There's a chance maybe in two weeks hopefully it scars up a little bit [and] he feels good enough to play and be productive."

 

Youkilis was injured during his first at-bat on Monday when he was jammed by a pitch and lined to shortstop.

 

"If he did some damage and pulled that muscle off the bone, then you're looking at a surgery that's very difficult," Francona said. "If this led to a surgery now, it's certainly fixable. We don't want to get into an area where we do something that becomes career-threatening. That would not be conscientious on our part."

 

Youkilis is hitting .307/.411/.564 with 19 homers and 62 RBIs. His loss for any length of time is a huge blow. Given the fragile state of the team, it could be the final straw.

 

"Youk's a great player. I can't see it being a good thing," Francona said. "But we'll see. When guys get hurt, I think what it does is your margin for error is less. We've seen that in a few games. Hopefully we won't make errors."

 

Lowell has not played in a major-league game since June 22. He is hitting .213/.308/.350 and will not be able to play every day because of his chronic right hip soreness. Victor Martinez and Jed Lowrie are the other first basemen on the roster.

 

Up until yesterday, the Red Sox were endeavoring to remove Lowell from the roster by trade or release. Now he's in the lineup.

 

"It's been an interesting ride," Francona said.

 

Francona said the recent discussions with Lowell should remain private. But there have been a series of meetings over the last few days. As of last night, indications were that Lowell had played his last game for the Red Sox.

 

Now he's the first baseman and could be for a while. What a strange season this has been.

 

UPDATE, 4:05 p.m.: Kevin Youkilis to the disabled list. According to a source familiar with the injury, Youkilis has a torn muscle in his right thumb. We're waiting on Terry Francona.

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I recently read that the Red Sox have never made the playoffs when facing an August 1st deficit of more than 2 games' date=' they are currently 6.5 back.[/quote']

 

and no team has ever come back from a 3-0 deficit in the playoffs before... oh wait

 

this is a very good red sox team. what's so frustrating about all the injuries is that if we had managed to stay somewhat healthy we'd probably be on pace to win 100+ games. 2 months is plenty of time to make up 6.5 games especially when we face the yankees 10 times and the rays something like 7

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and no team has ever come back from a 3-0 deficit in the playoffs before... oh wait

this is a very good red sox team. what's so frustrating about all the injuries is that if we had managed to stay somewhat healthy we'd probably be on pace to win 100+ games. 2 months is plenty of time to make up 6.5 games especially when we face the yankees 10 times and the rays something like 7

 

enough said

anything can happen

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and no team has ever come back from a 3-0 deficit in the playoffs before... oh wait

 

this is a very good red sox team. what's so frustrating about all the injuries is that if we had managed to stay somewhat healthy we'd probably be on pace to win 100+ games. 2 months is plenty of time to make up 6.5 games especially when we face the yankees 10 times and the rays something like 7

 

Are you missing your shift keys?

 

100+ win team with this bullpen? http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m186/mr_anonymous_2009/Gifs/tomcruiselaugh.gif

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Are you missing your shift keys?

 

100+ win team with this bullpen? http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m186/mr_anonymous_2009/Gifs/tomcruiselaugh.gif

 

if you consider the conga line of players we've had on dl, it's not a stretch to believe we'd be on pace for a 100 win season right now if they had been healthy. as bad as the bullpen is, bard and papelbon are a great back of the bullpen

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Yikes, he has a torn thumb adductor muscle, and the head has torn from the bone? They might try to rehab it, but when you looks at his thumb, it looked like it windowshaded on him, ie the muscle ripped off the bone and rolled up on itself. That's usually something that requires surgery as the muscle typically doesnt reattach by itself.
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Yikes' date=' he has a torn thumb adductor muscle, and the head has torn from the bone? They might try to rehab it, but when you looks at his thumb, it looked like it windowshaded on him, ie the muscle ripped off the bone and rolled up on itself. That's usually something that requires surgery as the muscle typically doesnt reattach by itself.[/quote']

 

they don't know if it's torn from the bone or not, that's why he's seeing the specialist

 

Kasparyan was generally optimistic regarding surgery to repair an adductor tear:

 

"It would probably go quite well, although much depends on the exact location," he said. "If the muscle is pulled off the bone it's quite amendable to repair

 

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/

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by the time youkilis returns from the dl, if he ever does, drew will be 3rd on the team in games played. it's ironic that only 3 (4 if you count dh as a position) of our position players have stayed off the dl and he's one of them

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