Red Sox injury updates

[Dojji]

Yeah, Pedey's really a bit too far out to count on yet. That's why I'm hoping Lowrie can get himself ready and answer the call sometime in the next week. It depends on what Theo's looking for in a recovered Lowrie but since he's rehabbing in Paw I'd like to hope he's just about ready, and desperate as we are for a MI I'd like to think that if he IS ready, Theo won't dick around..

[Spudboy]

Of course Scutaro's neck injury could complicate things too. If he goes down, Lowrie may be needed to play short.

[example1]

If Scutaro is healthy he should stay at SS. He's this team's established veteran SS for this year and next and when Pedroia is back Scutaro will undoubtedly start over Lowrie. No need to complicate things by making Scutaro move at this stage. Lowrie can earn the spot if he wants.

 

Also, I think it's funny how forgotten Lowrie has been as far as injuries/illness go. He's a switch hitting rookie SS who has shown good tools for a number of years. If he reproduced his MiLB numbers for the Sox they would have a .800 OPS SS on their hands. He was supposed to be a legitimate starter option yet he was out with mono so early, and he's injured so often, that he's not even included on most injured lists in 2010.

[Palodios]

Scutaro looked like he was in rough shape a few weeks ago, but he's been playing well lately and hasn't looked that bad. He desperately needs some relief, but I don't think the team can afford to give him much time off.

[Palodios]

Talk about going under the radar... Buchholz is scheduled to start tomorrow, and Hermida is coming back Thursday. This team is pulling itself back together quick.

 

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/red_sox/index.php/2010/07/19/lowell-set-for-rehab-v-mart-playing-catch/

 

Jeremy Hermida (cracked ribs) continued his recovery by going 0-for-4 with three strikeouts for Pawtucket tonight. Hermida will play again tomorrow night before joining the Red Sox on Thursday in Seattle.

 

–Clay Buchholz (strained right hamstring) threw a bullpen session and is on schedule to start here Wednesday night.

[Dojji]

Uggh. Hermida coming back probably means Nava goes down. A definite overall downgrade based on what we've seen from the two men.

 

There's a point beyond which you should favor the veteran over the rookie. Taking one of our best switch hitting bench bats off the roster to put a poor defensive LF with poor ability to make contact with the baseball on it is well short of that point.

[Palodios]

I've just been under the assumption they're planning on trading one of the two.

[Rdsxmbnt]

Hermida should absolutely be the one to go, he has proved nothing this year with the bat while Nava has. He's had three years to turn back into the stud prospect and it hasn't happened. Fool me once (Kotchman) shame on you, fool me twice (Hermida) shame on me.

[jacksonianmarch]

It makes no sense to cut Hermida. While he isnt a good defender and Nava has been better in a shorter period of time, Hermida has shown a knack for the dramatic AND he would be scooped up in a heartbeat if cut. Here is what you do. You stick him in LF until Ellsbury comes back and in 10 days or so, you hope he gets hot and you can move him. You dont cut a controlled commodity that would be in demand.

 

Also, those who laughed at me when I said Hall would last longer than Hermida should enjoy their crow. Maybe with some salt and a side of wine? Does it seem feasible now?

[Palodios]

Who figured on Hermida lasting past Hall? Utility guys like Hall are valuable even if they don't hit. Horrible defensive corner outfielders who can't... not so much.

[Keeper]

Wait, so Nava is getting sent down? Why? It's pretty clear that he's better than Hermida.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

I'd choose Nava or Hermeida.

[CoachC.]

C Victor Martinez was unable to squeeze his broken left thumb into a catcher's mitt or swing a bat right-handed a few days ago. On Tuesday, he was able to do both. While Martinez's timetable to return still depends on his ability to tolerate pain, he's inching closer to a return. It's possible Martinez, who has been playing catch and doing catching drills with the assistance of a protective thumb guard, could return when the Red Sox play the Angels in Anaheim next week.

 

(Yahoo! Sports)

[Palodios]

Catcher is clearly a position this team needs some help in right now, so getting VMart back helps a ton. Cash and Brown aren't getting it done, and my gamewatching skills tell me that their defense really isn't that significant an upgrade.

[TheMino007]

Catcher has been a blackhole offensively since V-Mart went out. For a team that has seen its runs per game drop about a 1.5 runs per game this month, the combined sub .150 average from Cash, Brown, and Molina isn't cutting it

[Spudboy]

Catcher has been a blackhole offensively since V-Mart went out. For a team that has seen its runs per game drop about a 1.5 runs per game this month' date=' the combined sub .150 average from Cash, Brown, and Molina isn't cutting it[/quote']

 

 

OK.

 

Brown looked good today. SSS. But OK.

[Lester82]

It makes no sense to cut Hermida. While he isnt a good defender and Nava has been better in a shorter period of time' date=' Hermida has shown a knack for the dramatic AND he would be scooped up in a heartbeat if cut. [/b'] Here is what you do. You stick him in LF until Ellsbury comes back and in 10 days or so, you hope he gets hot and you can move him. You dont cut a controlled commodity that would be in demand.

 

Also, those who laughed at me when I said Hall would last longer than Hermida should enjoy their crow. Maybe with some salt and a side of wine? Does it seem feasible now?[/

 

So the circumstances of injury makes another of your claims look right?

 

Although you talk out of both sides of your mouth since you state exactly why Hermida wouldn't be cut (and maybe not even traded...) I'm not convinced Ellsbury's coming back till September callups/roster expansion is close anyway. Edit: Yep. I just heard that Francona said Ellsbury is not even involved in any intense baseball activity at all. He's at the very least, another 3-4 weeks away, a best case scenerio. By the way, I don't get what some posters are saying about Hermida "proving nothing" before he went down with the rib injury.

 

He was pretty good with the bat. but of course, he's just a butcher defensively.

[Dojji]

http://news.soxprospects.com/2010/07/hermida-activated-nava-optioned-to.html

 

Called it.

 

Absolute idiocy to send Nava down in order to keep a guy who didn't step up when the team needed him and whose season line is as dominant as .214/.268/.384 could possibly be. Really, really sick of Theo sticking the worst guy in MLB and the better guy in AAA just to self-validate his decision to sign someone. Show a bit of honest humility and mental flexibility and PLAY THE BETTER GUY, especially when we already have a ton of ground to make up.

[Lester82]

Absolute idiocy to send Nava down in order to keep a guy who didn't step up when the team needed him

 

 

What the hell did Hermida do to you? LMAO. I must have missed that so much was riding on Hermida with your "didn't step up when the team needed him" stuff. He actually had some big hits for the team. I think Ellsbury acting like he's close to death has hurt the Red Sox more.

[jacksonianmarch]

So the circumstances of injury makes another of your claims look right?

 

Although you talk out of both sides of your mouth since you state exactly why Hermida wouldn't be cut (and maybe not even traded...) I'm not convinced Ellsbury's coming back till September callups/roster expansion is close anyway. Edit: Yep. I just heard that Francona said Ellsbury is not even involved in any intense baseball activity at all. He's at the very least, another 3-4 weeks away, a best case scenerio. By the way, I don't get what some posters are saying about Hermida "proving nothing" before he went down with the rib injury.

 

He was pretty good with the bat. but of course, he's just a butcher defensively.

 

Ah yes, it was you who were quick to judge when I said Hall would stick around. Hall is versatile and can swing the stick just about as well as Hermida can. Hermida is about as versatile as Manny Ramirez. Once Hermida got injured and Nava showed his worth, the deathknell of Hermida's career in Boston was told. Hermida will in all likelihood be traded, IMO. My guess is that he sticks around until Ellsbury comes back and then gets DFA'd and moved. With Ellsbury and Cameron in the OF, the chance of injury is high and the sox need to have an OFer capable of playing CF who is not Bill Hall (he's an abysmal CFer) which is why I think McDonald sticks. So, it's time for Hermida to audition for either a weak starting role or a 4th OFer role on another contender. My bet is that by the end of the yr, Hermida is gone and Nava is back up. The kid was better than Hermida in the short time he was up

[Palodios]

What the hell did Hermida do to you? LMAO. I must have missed that so much was riding on Hermida with your "didn't step up when the team needed him" stuff. He actually had some big hits for the team. I think Ellsbury acting like he's close to death has hurt the Red Sox more.

 

Hermida has been very very good with RISP. But it doesn't change the fact that he's hitting just a hair above the Mendoza line.

[jacksonianmarch]

.217/.268/.384. That's an OPS of .652 out of a corner OFer. The definition of suck

[Dojji]

.217/.268/.384. That's an OPS of .652 out of a corner OFer. The definition of suck

 

Pretty much. That and he's a platoon hitter while Nava switch hits.

 

There's no comparison here. Nava is the better player. His OBP alone is 100 points better.

 

heck, Mark Kotsay hit better than that.

 

We're about 5 games back for the wild card heading into August with 2 very good teams to catch.. Every little gain could make a difference at this point and every drag on the roster hurts disproportionately. we DO NOT have the luxury to wait and see if Hermida will improve. Get. Rid. Of. Him.

[CoachC.]

* Victor Martinez caught Tm Wakefield's bullpen session today and will catch Clay Buchholz on Saturday. They took apart his mitt and strengthened the area around his thumb. It wouldn't be a shock were he ready to play in Anaheim.

 

* Dustin Pedroia hit today and did some strengthening drills. He'll get checked out on Monday in Los Angeles by Dr. Lewis Yocum. Once he's cleared to play, he'll want to play the next day. It may not be that fast, but it'll be fast.

 

* Jacoby Ellsbury took BP on the field in Fort Myers yesterday, took today off and will hit again tomorrow. He started a hitting program on July 10 that is supposed to take roughly two weeks to get a player ready for games. Francona said it's possible Ellsbury will be ready in minor-league games in four or five days.

 

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2010/07/pre-game_notes_7.html

[SoxSport]

Nava down for Hermida is a just a sign of the roster problems the Red Sox have. Hermida makes more money so he stays. Nava and McDonald saved this club from embarrassment, and they'll get ditched at the first opportunity for players who have not performed as well, but who are higher on the payroll.

Questionable priorities. Holding onto Lowell turned out to be a huge mistake.

[Yaz Sideburn]

.217/.268/.384. That's an OPS of .652 out of a corner OFer. The definition of suck

 

he's giving curtis granderson a run for his money in the suck department

[Yaz Sideburn]

more good news on v-mart

 

Victor Martinez looks more and more like a guy ready to play, both in action and expression. Don't be surprised if he catches in the Angels series.

 

sounds like he'll be back behind the plate within the next week, possibly in a few days

[jacksonianmarch]

he's giving curtis granderson a run for his money in the suck department

 

No doubt. Granderson has completely regressed. He isnt hitting the ball the other way and isnt adjusting to how he's pitched. He is seeing a lot of breaking balls in off the plate and a lot of heat away

[soxfan74]

Had no problem bringing Hermida back. But get rid of Patterson. Some forget that Hermida had some clutch hits before he went on the DL. Despite his poor numbers. Patterson is pretty much useless. Another stupid trade.

[Palodios]

Patterson is better than Angel Sanchez, but continuing to play him with Lowrie on hand makes no sense.