Jump to content
Talk Sox
  • Create Account

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 723
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted
Gonzalez was 2nd in the league in intentional walks to Pujols. Thats pretty clear he was pitched around' date=' [b']he was also intentionally walked with no on base twice last year[/b].

 

OMG THAT IS LIKE SO MUCH. situations play a key part in IBBs.

 

by the way 22 is so much.

Posted
How do you know Youk's wont go up either? they'll be playing in same park.

 

Lol, are you kidding me? ROFL, Youk already plays at Fenway, champ.

Posted
Here is my point, Im not saying playing in FENWAY WONT GO UP. But how can you say Youk "WOULDN'T produce in the 3 hole and Gonzalez will? Youk will most certainly produce and get on base, Gonzalez would too, WHICH IS MY POINT, it would be a fanastic lineup from 1-9.
Posted
Lol' date=' are you kidding me? ROFL, Youk already plays at Fenway, champ.[/quote']

 

My point, what if Youk didn't play at Fenway yesterday, Youk doesn't like hitting at fenway, he said he is too close to the fans, so he doesn't swing as hard when he is at fenway, he prefers at hitting at parks for example: camden yards. Gonzalez would love fenway, so its unfair to judge them on fenway because one likes the park, one doesn't.

Posted
Here is my point' date=' Im not saying playing in FENWAY WONT GO UP. But how can you say Youk "WOULDN'T produce in the 3 hole and Gonzalez will? Youk will most certainly produce and get on base, Gonzalez would too, WHICH IS MY POINT, it would be a fanastic lineup from 1-9.[/quote']

 

No s*** Einstein. Because none of us realize that Youk, as of right now, is the only Red Sox player with middle-of-the-order capability.

Posted
Here is my point' date=' Im not saying playing in FENWAY WONT GO UP. But how can you say Youk "WOULDN'T produce in the 3 hole and Gonzalez will? Youk will most certainly produce and get on base, Gonzalez would too, WHICH IS MY POINT, it would be a fanastic lineup from 1-9.[/quote']

 

lets us see. Youk a four hitter last year.

 

gonzo now surrounded by better 1-2 hitters will gain power. Plus in the smaller park more hits will turn in to bloops or into blasts.

 

Take youk put him in Petco for 81 games his OBP is a lot lower.

Posted
lets us see. Youk a four hitter last year.

 

gonzo now surrounded by better 1-2 hitters will gain power. Plus in the smaller park more hits will turn in to bloops or into blasts.

 

Take youk put him in Petco for 81 games his OBP is a lot lower.

 

But his lineup was shittier, so he was the 2nd most pitched around hitter in the MLB last year, the park isn't an excuse in this instance.

Posted
My point' date=' what if Youk didn't play at Fenway yesterday, Youk doesn't like hitting at fenway, he said he is too close to the fans, so he doesn't swing as hard when he is at fenway, he prefers at hitting at parks for example: camden yards. Gonzalez would love fenway, so its unfair to judge them on fenway because one likes the park, one doesn't.[/quote']

 

Lol, this is like arguing with a retarded brick wall. Youkilis' power is no where near Gonzalez's power. What IS your point? It sounds like you're just farting with the walkman on.

Posted
No s*** Einstein. Because none of us realize that Youk' date=' as of right now, is the only Red Sox player with middle-of-the-order capability.[/quote']

 

God should let us shoot stupid people. B)

Posted
But his lineup was shittier' date=' so he was the 2nd most pitched around hitter in the MLB last year, the park isn't an excuse in this instance.[/quote']

 

You are blathering complete ignorance right now, dude. Time to quick sniffin' the jankem and get to bed.

Posted
My point' date=' what if Youk didn't play at Fenway yesterday, Youk doesn't like hitting at fenway, he said he is too close to the fans, so he doesn't swing as hard when he is at fenway, he prefers at hitting at parks for example: camden yards. Gonzalez would love fenway, so its unfair to judge them on fenway because one likes the park, one doesn't.[/quote']

 

Yeah Youk doesnt like hitting at Fenway

 

350 games at Fenway: 47 HRs, (.300 avg) (.394 obp) (.496 slg) (.890 ops)

339 games away: 46 HRs, (.285 avg) (.388 obp) (.479 slg) (.867 ops)

Posted
My point' date=' what if Youk didn't play at Fenway yesterday, Youk doesn't like hitting at fenway, he said he is too close to the fans, so he doesn't swing as hard when he is at fenway, he prefers at hitting at parks for example: camden yards. Gonzalez would love fenway, so its unfair to judge them on fenway because one likes the park, one doesn't.[/quote']

Seriously, this is what you are using in your argument? :lol:

Posted
You are blathering complete ignorance right now' date=' dude. Time to quick sniffin' the jankem and get to bed.[/quote']

 

How is it not true.

 

Do you really think in a lineup that has 1 THREAT this dude wont get pitched around?

Posted
But his lineup was shittier' date=' so he was the 2nd most pitched around hitter in the MLB last year, the park isn't an excuse in this instance.[/quote']

 

Excuse plz. Read. he hit lower and had a lower OBP ballpark is huge. Plus with less protection they may be more apt to go after him because he won't hurt them as much playing in the ocean of ballparks.

Posted
Excuse plz. Read. he hit lower and had a lower OBP ballpark is huge. Plus with less protection they may be more apt to go after him because he won't hurt them as much playing in the ocean of ballparks.

 

That is not true. He was consistently pitched around because of how bad his lineup was, seriously, he was in worst lineup in baseball. THEY GOT NO HIT BY JONATHAN f***ING SANCHEZ!

Posted
That is not true. He was consistently pitched around because of how bad his lineup was' date=' seriously, he was in worst lineup in baseball. THEY GOT NO HIT BY JONATHAN f***ING SANCHEZ![/quote']

 

22 walks means all the time. really. Big park has no effect on it at all. Glad I Know now. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Posted
How is it not true.

 

Do you really think in a lineup that has 1 THREAT this dude wont get pitched around?

 

That's not the point. You're trying to compare him to Kevin Youkilis, which is completely incorrect. Call yourself an undereducated trolling little kid and come out of your mother's basement.

Posted
That is not true. He was consistently pitched around because of how bad his lineup was' date=' seriously, he was in worst lineup in baseball. THEY GOT NO HIT BY JONATHAN f***ING SANCHEZ![/quote']

 

Did you watch the games to know this or are you guessing at what really happened and afraid to get schooled by a 19 guy and girl.

Posted
22 walks means all the time. really. Big park has no effect on it at all. Glad I Know now. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

 

Where did I say the park has no effect? I said 22 intentional walks, smart ass. Your not accounting for when he is "pitched around" or "unintentionally intentionally walked"

Posted
That's not the point. You're trying to compare him to Kevin Youkilis' date=' which is completely incorrect. Call yourself an undereducated trolling little kid and come out of your mother's basement.[/quote']

 

How? A park has an effect, but so do lineups, they both effect OBP.

Posted
That is not true. He was consistently pitched around because of how bad his lineup was' date=' seriously, he was in worst lineup in baseball. THEY GOT NO HIT BY JONATHAN f***ING SANCHEZ![/quote']

 

Right here because i had said

 

Excuse plz. Read. he hit lower and had a lower OBP ballpark is huge.
Posted
How? A park has an effect' date=' but so do lineups, they both effect OBP.[/quote']

 

Lineup has little to know effect on how you hit. if they pitched around him why are you using stats from IBB which have no meaning.

Posted
Right here because i had said

 

I said it wasn't true because they would intentionally pitch to him because of a big park. You really think a pitcher goes "HEY LOTS THROW A MEATBALL, NO WAY HE HITS A HOMER IN THIS PARK!'

Posted
How? A park has an effect' date=' but so do lineups, they both effect OBP.[/quote']

 

Stop backtracking. That's not what you originally stated.

Posted
I said it wasn't true because they would intentionally pitch to him because of a big park. You really think a pitcher goes "HEY LOTS THROW A MEATBALL' date=' NO WAY HE HITS A HOMER IN THIS PARK!'[/quote']

 

Yes of course because the bigger park will take a fenway pesky pole shot make it foul. Green Monster seat HR a F-7. A shot into the Bullpens in Fenway a F-9.

Posted
I said it wasn't true because they would intentionally pitch to him because of a big park. You really think a pitcher goes "HEY LOTS THROW A MEATBALL' date=' NO WAY HE HITS A HOMER IN THIS PARK!'[/quote']

 

You've changed your argument so many times it's confusing where you stand.

 

I'm going to ask you this: What is your point, exactly, and stick to it. I came in here to see you stating that OBP is not effected by the ballpark, and you've changed to "It does, but so does lineup". Well no s***, we always knew that.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
The Talk Sox Caretaker Fund
The Talk Sox Caretaker Fund

You all care about this site. The next step is caring for it. We’re asking you to caretake this site so it can remain the premier Red Sox community on the internet.

×
×
  • Create New...