Yankees payroll cut to $185 million

[Gom]

 

I can't see this happening...not this year at least.

[riverside sluggers]

And yet Jon Lackey, Jason Bay, Matt Holliday remain on the market... As well as Rafael Soriano and Mike Gonzalez

[jacksonianmarch]

Hence why I thought resigning Matsui or Damon + a trade was more prudent. I knew we werent players for Holliday or Bay. This kinda confirms it. This also makes a deal for Halladay very unlikely.

 

As it stands right now....

 

Lineup:

SS- Jeter

2B- Cano

1B- Teixeira

3B- Rodriguez

C- Posada

RF- Swisher

CF- Cabrera/Gardner

LF- Jackson

DH- Miranda

 

I expect that to not be our opening day lineup, but that's the most likely scenario I can see. Potential black hole at the bottom with a solid 1-6.

[riverside sluggers]

Im not counting the Yankees out of anything

[Dipre]

I bet they at least sign Damon.

[jacksonianmarch]

You are probably right, I think Damon is most likely since Girardi made it very clear that he wants the DH spot to be flexible. That might open a spot for Miranda when all of the guys are in the field. Its about time to see what he can do.

[Dipre]

You are probably right' date=' I think Damon is most likely since Girardi made it very clear that he wants the DH spot to be flexible. That might open a spot for Miranda when all of the guys are in the field. Its about time to see what he can do.[/quote']

 

I've seen him in limited action in Winter Ball, but Jesus Christ, that guy can tear the cover off the ball!

[jacksonianmarch]

Yes he can. The problem is, the guy is probably the worst fielder in the history of yankee minor league baseball. He's a DH in our farm system, meaning he is perpetually blocked. If the DH spot opens at least a little, then he could get his one shot.

[Gom]

I believe the Yankees need to get rid of the long-term deals. Supposedly, the Yankees will give Austin Jackson a shot in 2011. Signing Damon for one year will basically allow you to wipe away his entire contract the following season. Matsui can be replaced with a comparable player for the same/less money. Jeter, Posada, and Mo are the only real free agents of consequence next year, and it is a near certainty that Jeter and Mo will retire with a Yankee uniform. Posada likely will as well, but Posada's contract comes off as well. Pettitte will probably retire. The Yankees want to scale down their payroll, but they should do it with expiring contracts, and let current economic climate decrease their payroll by replacing expensive expiring contracts with comparable players at lower contracts. Case in point...say the Yankees sign Damon and Matsui to 1 year, 10 million and 1 year, 6 million, respectively. The following year, arbitration can be given to both players [assuming they continue on the same level offensively] and year to year continues until a) they decline to the point that letting them go and replacing they with another player is the better option or b ) they decline arbitration and sign elsewhere, and they acquire picks.

 

A faster scale-down will leave holes that will need to be fixed with trades, which then will cost you prospects AS WELL as money. Look at Tex and the Red Sox. An extra $20 million over 10 years, and he's yours, in my opinion. Let's just go with this assumption for a minute. If that was the case, the prospects could have been used to acquire Lee. I don't see the reasoning for trading at this point for the Yankees, for the most part. Yes, I'd like Halladay. I'd f***ing love to have Halladay on my team. However, he will cost players AND money. Why not just get Lackey and keep your players?

 

By the way, the limit is ********. Anyone who believes it is a fool in my opinion. The Yankees had the most profitable year EVER. So they are going to scale down? Get real. It's a PR move.

 

They will say they scaled down. The market...predictably...goes down. Then the Yankees swoop in and sign a bona fide free agent or two, and Cashman gives us the whole song and dance of how he went to ownership, and they "okayed" the deal because of their burning desire to win. The Yankees win another World Series, and it's ownership giving in to bring a winner to NY.

 

The ownership WANTS to win, of that I have no doubt. They're just playing all of you for fools. At least those that believe everything they read.

[Dipre]

The total value of the Red Sox offer to Teixeira was said to have been 10 years and 220 million. However, your opinion is not valid, because you have no idea of the final structure of the contract, or how the negotiations actually went down, ditto for Lee, the foundation for his trade could have been laid on the Winter Meetings, you have no idea how it actually happened.

[Gom]

The total value of the Red Sox offer to Teixeira was said to have been 10 years and 220 million. However' date=' your opinion is not valid, because you have no idea of the final structure of the contract, or how the negotiations actually went down, ditto for Lee, the foundation for his trade could have been laid on the Winter Meetings, you have no idea how it actually happened.[/quote']

 

Neither do you. None of us are ever involved in any negotiation with any free agent or trade, so we only speculate. It's called the Hot Stove, Dipre.

 

Also...please read. I said, assume it's true. Why do you take the one part of the post that I tell you to assume is true, for argument's sake, and argue it?

 

Everyone else, please ignore his post, and this rebuttal. If you don't agree with the Tex part, that's fine. Don't take the minor point of Tex, look at the gist of what I'm saying. What the Yankees say doesn't really make sense right now, does it?

[Dipre]

Neither do you. None of us are ever involved in any negotiation with any free agent or trade, so we only speculate. It's called the Hot Stove, Dipre.

 

Also...please read. I said, assume it's true. Why do you take the one part of the post that I tell you to assume is true, for argument's sake, and argue it?

 

Everyone else, please ignore his post, and this rebuttal. If you don't agree with the Tex part, that's fine. Don't take the minor point of Tex, look at the gist of what I'm saying. What the Yankees say doesn't really make sense right now, does it?

 

Because i don't have to assume it's true if it's a logical fallacy. You didn't say "Assume it's true" you said, "In my opinion". Your opinion is incorrect, and i am calling you out on it.

[Emmz]

Dipre correcting Gom has become a Talksox staple.

[Gom]

Look at Tex and the Red Sox. An extra $20 million over 10 years' date=' and he's yours, in my opinion.[b'] Let's just go with this assumption for a minute.[/b]

Because i don't have to assume it's true if it's a logical fallacy. You didn't say "Assume it's true" you said' date=' "In my opinion". Your opinion is incorrect, and i am calling you out on it.[/quote']

 

Um...what? I'm being nice today..but seriously...

 

Again...all..ignore the threads about Tex. Do you agree with the main point of my post?

[Emmz]

Gom: When you two getting married???!?!?!??!?!1!?!/111///2/12

 

Any takers?

[Dipre]

Um...what? I'm being nice today..but seriously...

 

Again...all..ignore the threads about Tex. Do you agree with the main point of my post?

 

If we're "Assuming" your post is indeed correct.

 

And before you say it, yes, Emmz and i are going to get married.

[Gom]

Thank you. Dipre agrees with me. Hell has frozen over. Film at 11.

[Dowerk17]

i figured they would at least resign Damon, maybe not for left field but if they dont plan on re signing Matsui, they could DH Damon. But that would leave them a whole in left field and id still like either Bay or Holliday to be with us and not in pin stripes.

[Gom]

And before you say it, yes, Emmz and i are going to get married.

Emmz...how much did he offer you for the Green Card?

[Dipre]

Emmz...how much did he offer you for the Green Card?

 

10% of my salary. It's a win-win.

[Gom]

10% of my salary. It's a win-win.

 

Bad deal for Emmz. What can she get for 10 bucks a month?

[Dipre]

Bad deal for Emmz. What can she get for 10 bucks a month?

 

We should ask you. That's about 10% of your cab driver salary too.

[Gom]

Weak. If that's your best comeback, I'm disappointed. I expected more from you.

 

Boo.

[Dipre]

Weak. If that's your best comeback, I'm disappointed. I expected more from you.

 

Boo.

 

The truth is weak?

 

With gas prices and an '88 Ford Mercury that's the most you could be making.

[Gom]

Weak.

[Dipre]

Weak.

 

Lol.

 

Someone's moody today.

[bsox0407]

Lol.

 

Someone's moody today.

 

Calm down........

 

 

 

 

Its Gom's Time of the month. lol

[YAZMAN]

Gom: When you two getting married???!?!?!??!?!1!?!/111///2/12

 

Any takers?

 

When Harry met Sal Lee?

[Dipre]

When Harry met Sal Lee?

 

I don't get it. :dunno:

[Gom]

So does anyone agree with the premise I laid out?